Spurs' goal from the halfway line that wasn't, was it?

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Originally posted by Roy T:
What do others think of Roy Carroll's action, has he or his club brought the game into disrpute?

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Roy Carroll's action was disgraceful. However, I don't think he can be accused of bringing the game into disrepute. Football has been in disrepute for quite a while now.

This type of cheating is indicative of a decline in standards over the last few decades, not just in the game of football but in our society in general. In the 1950s and 60s the British were admired and respected across the world for our standards of decency, honesty, fair play and good behaviour. We've come a long way since then.

Steve M

Roy Cs action was not disgraceful: rather than waiting to see if the ball had crossed the line and then decide if he would be able to clear it if he moved really quick or not ( by which time it would have stopped bouncing ), he did what I think is the right thing and went for it regardless.

The fact that the goal was allowed is due to the Refs assistant not looking: strengthens the argument for video assistance.

Even Sir Alex agreed it was a goal.

Regards

Mike

Spending money I don't have on things I don't need.

What--a goal,against man.u,at old trafford, near the end of the game, disallowed??Never Still, if the goal had stood, the ref would have had to play just enough extra-time for man-u to score one back. That is in the rule-book isn't it? .Tee-Hee, matt.

I'm a Spurs supporter so am obviously disheartened that the goal didn't count. Having said that I'm so pissed off with football in general in this country that I just look on the whole thing with amusement. Yeah sure the goalie should've grassed up to the ref that the ball woz in but tbh he probably thought Fergie would chin 'im for daring to be err... sporting an' all that.

Footy's a professional game, nowadayzz, doncha know?

Cheers,

JR

If I was Mendez I'd have just gone up to Carroll and punched him in the face and then said I hadn't.

I can't get angry.
It's only poor old Spurs, Innit

An FA spokesman after the game absolved the linesman of any responsibility
> for the apparently mistaken decision not to award a goal to Spurs after a
> shot from the halfway line crossed the goal line by at least a meter.
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> "The shot came in from an unusual distance and as such caught the linesman
> out of position forcing him to race back towards the goal as the play
> developed", explained the spokesman, "As he ran, the United scarf he was
> wearing under his shirt came loose and fluttered up into his face
> obscuring
> his view and preventing him from making the call. It was just one of those
> things."
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> In response to further questions from the Press the spokesman explained
> "If
> they don't already have a United tattoo most officials on game day try to
> wear a scarf or a relica shirt under their regulation kit to show their
> support for the worlds greatest club. The linesman in this case had chosen
> to wear a United scarf, a common choice that is in keeping with FA
> guidelines. The root cause of the problem lies not with the linesman but
> with the players and management of Tottenham Hotspur Football Club who
> broke
> one the most important unwritten rules of the English FA: They placed a
> shot
> on target at Old Trafford. Martin Jol is new to this country and perhaps
> he
> s not yet familiar with some of our finer traditions. Fortunately if he
> doesn't yet understand that for the greater good of the game visiting
> teams,
> by tradition, are not expected to try to score at Old Trafford then our
> officials are in a position to help Mr Jol make that cultural adjustment."
>
> Chuckling to himself the FA spokesman added "The goal had to be disallowed
> to avoid us descending down a slippery slope that would be bad for the
> national game. It's a fine line the officials have to walk. If they award
> a
> goal this week, next week someone might expect a penalty or ask that Van
> Nistleroy be booked for diving. Can you imagine? That would just never do.
> No no no. Shocking, just the thought of it."

Bob

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This type of cheating is indicative of a decline in standards over the last few decades, not just in the game of football but in our society in general. In the 1950s and 60s the British were admired and respected across the world for our standards of decency, honesty, fair play and good behaviour. We've come a long way since then.

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In around 1970 one Francis Lee punched the ball into the net in such an obvious way that both sides fell about laughing. The ref. gave the goal and Lee wrote in his newspaper column that he couldn't have said anything because it would have let his team down.

What decline in standards was that then???

Mike

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Originally posted by Mike Hughes:
What decline in standards was that then???

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In the English, Welsh and Scottish league and cup matches:

There were about 12 sendings off a year from 1891/92 to 1961/62.
By 1979/80, the figure had jumped to 115.
In 1990/91 sendings off exceeded 200.
In 1994/95 sendings off exceeded 300.
In 2002 over 450 players were sent off.

That decline.

Steve M

7V
You obviously do not remember the 1970 cup final between Chelsea and Leeds. It was, by todays standards, total war and if played today would have been abandoned due to there not being enough players on the pitch after sendings off. As it was no one was sent off. Standards haven't declined dear boy referees and players today are just wusses!

Bob

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Originally posted by bob mccluckie:
Standards haven't declined dear boy referees and players today are just wusses!

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Originally said by Sir Tom Finney:
Throughout my playing career with Preston North End, I can only recall two sendings off. This was not because referees were more lenient but because standards of conduct were much higher. Yes, we played hard, but we were also fair ... To be sent off was a cause for shame. You had let your team, the manager and the spectators down.

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Hardly the attitude of today's players.

Steve M

What if this had happened in the Cup final?