Question for Hutter users

Posted by: bob atherton on 09 December 2000

Hi,

I have just been informed that Hutter is available with 'special' spikes in place of the nylon feet.
I experimented with many surfaces under the Hutter when they first arrived but found that the nylon feet on carpet was the best. This surprised me a great deal as I thought that harder surfaces would sound better, but to my ears that special magical flow of Hutter was lost a bit on anything else.

The news of spikes has got me wondering. Any feedback from all you happy Hutter users would be greatly appreciated.

I can't believe that the stands could sound
better than they are at the moment, but I'm happy to give spikes a try.

Bob

Posted on: 11 December 2000 by bob atherton
Thanks guys,

I will phone Phonography in the morning.

Bob.

Posted on: 11 December 2000 by Paul Stephenson
Go for the spikes, if you have a concrete floor splice the carpet to make sure they go through and then make sure all shelves, starting with the base are totally level.
Posted on: 14 December 2000 by hobiecat
Hi all guys,

has anybody of you ever tried Hutter racks with dimensions different from standard? The fact is that standard dimensions (600x476) are a bit on the big side indeed, but I fear that different dimensions could affect the sound of the rack...Any experience? Thanks.

Paolo

Posted on: 18 December 2000 by Martin M
Has anyone tried those little metal spiked isolation platforms that are featured under the turntable in the Hutter leaflet?
Posted on: 18 December 2000 by Martin M
Jason, Ta! I won't buy one then.
Posted on: 19 December 2000 by Jorg
Here is a question to Hutter experts:
I am trying out a four level stand with CDS2, 52 and 2*135 on it. XPS and SCAP are on a different stand. The magical flow of the music is there and I am quite excited about the stand, BUT there is way too much bass (although well controlled). The setup of the stand is from the bottom up:
- bad wooden floor, hollow sounding in patches
- the base plate of the stand on its plastic feet
- the shelf on spikes

What can I do? I would appreciate your help!
Thanks,
Jor

Posted on: 19 December 2000 by Nigel Cavendish
Having seen Joel's piccies of his Hutter arrangement, am I the only one who thinks it looks less than attractive?

cheers

Nigel

Posted on: 19 December 2000 by Pete, Mad Bad and Dangerous to Know
Hi,

No you aren't the only one who thinks they look like a school woodwork project with bits of plastic pipe thrown in, they look like a CSE pass to me.

pete

Posted on: 19 December 2000 by MarkEJ
Joel's Hutter is from the "Racktime HiFi" range. This is the range with the "ToyTown" arched sides. I suspect that you only need to specify this range if you need enough clearance between shelves for a NAP500 (give me that problem). If you don't need that much clearance, you can choose fronm the "Racktime Basic" range, which is identical inall respects other than the arched sides. It just has straight rails and IMHO draws less attention to itself visually.

There are a couple of things about this stuff which are not obvious until go get your mitts on it:

1. its HEAVY. It doesn't look heavy, but it is.

2. The fit and finish is flawless. Normally to get veneer this good you'd have to do it by hand, with about 40 years training. The vertical connectors are a perfect "interference fit" and are finely machined of something heavy and cold. (It's metal, Jim, but not as we know it).

A friend of mine recently replaced a couple of SoundStyle tripods/Target wall shelves with Racktime basic in the very pale finish (pear?) and the room now appears about 30% bigger, although the footprint of the racks is about the same. Sounds glorious too.

Best;

Mark

(I still don't like this
software very much)

[This message was edited by Mark Ellis-Jones on TUESDAY 19 December 2000 at 15:33.]

Posted on: 19 December 2000 by MarkEJ
big grin big grin big grin big grin
[Applause]

(I still don't like this
software very much)

Posted on: 20 December 2000 by Jorg
Jason,
thanks for your reply. I had some time today to try some of your suggestions. I do not have extra spikes right now, but I tried a round head screw instead of the nylon feet. This reduced the bass by quite a bit. Then, I moved the whole rack forward into the room and realized that the rack is very sensitive to sitting close (less than 1 meter) to the corner of the room. This could be due to the corner itself and/or the topology of the deformed wooden beams that are underneath the old floor. The Project rack I used before was less sensitive. I am amazed how much the sound is changed between the two racks, especially with more complex music. Compared to the Hutter, the Project seems to add glare and chops up the musical phrasing. More hype will be posted on the Hutter forum to not offend those grouchy Hutter-less people...

Jorg

Posted on: 21 December 2000 by hobiecat
Is there a Hutter forum, guys?

Paolo