Star Trek Enterprise

Posted by: Joe Petrik on 15 November 2004

Have my impeccable standards for TV drama dropped or has Enterprise improved this season to the point that it's no longer painful to watch?

I'll entertain the competing hypothesis that with Buffy off the air, there no longer is anything good on TV (except for the newsy Daily Show with Jon Stewart), so by default crap shows previously not given a passing thought now seem watchable, good even. If so, I also expect 24 to be brilliant this season.

Joe
Posted on: 15 November 2004 by Stephen Bennett
quote:
Originally posted by Joe Petrik:
Have my impeccable standards for TV drama dropped or has Enterprise improved this season to the point that it's no longer painful to watch?

I'll entertain the competing hypothesis that with Buffy off the air, there no longer is anything good on TV (except for the newsy Daily Show with Jon Stewart), so by default crap shows previously not given a passing thought now seem watchable, good even. If so, I also expect 24 to be brilliant this season.

Joe


Is this the latest season of which you speak? The last (Xindi arc) was pretty good IMHO.Manny Coto (Odyssey 5) has brought a new maturity and vigour to the show.

But for great TV; watch the new Battlestar Galactica. Whatever anyone else says. It's abso-fracking-lutely brilliant. It's 24 meets Babylon 5 meets the Sopranos. With better FX and acting...

Regards

[This message was edited by Stephen Bennett on Mon 15 November 2004 at 17:15.]
Posted on: 15 November 2004 by Joe Petrik
Stephen,

quote:
Is this the latest season of which you speak?


Yup, the season that began about a month ago. (I don't know if the broadcasts in the UK are in synch with those here. It's the season *after* the Xindi season.)



quote:
But for great TV; watch the new Battlestar Galactica.

*New*? There's a new series?

Joe
Posted on: 15 November 2004 by Stephen Bennett
quote:
Originally posted by Joe Petrik:

quote:
But for great TV; watch the new Battlestar Galactica.

*New*? There's a new series?

Joe


Well it's new in the UK - the one with the female Starbuck.

Stephen
Posted on: 15 November 2004 by matthewr
Stephen,

You are seriously comparing Battlestar Galatica to The Sopranos? The Sopranos being one of the best TV dramas of (at least) the last 10 years?

When is it on?

Matthew
Posted on: 15 November 2004 by JonR
quote:
Originally posted by Joe Petrik:
If so, I also expect 24 to be brilliant this season.


Are you saying there's a fourth series????

Eek

JR
Posted on: 15 November 2004 by Joe Petrik
Jon,

Yup, the upcoming season of 24 would be the fourth installment of a day in the life of hard-ass Jack Bower.

Hard to believe so much shit can happen in a day, eh -- battling terrorists... outwitting double-crossing double agents... outsmarting druglords... avoiding mountain lions... finding cures to viral plagues... popping a cap in your buddy's ass cuz the bad guy said you had to... preventing a presidential coup d'état. The excitement never ends on the show -- well, not until 24 hours have elapsed.

Joe
Posted on: 15 November 2004 by JonR
He never seems to find the time to go to the toilet, does he?

JR
Posted on: 15 November 2004 by Joe Petrik
Nick,

quote:
... the second perked up a lot (and has nothing to do with the act that they showed a lot more of T'Pol in tight-fitting outfits).


Just for you, Nick. Just for you.

Joe
Posted on: 15 November 2004 by NB
To quote the fat bloke in the Simpson, "worst series ever"!

Regards


NB
Posted on: 16 November 2004 by Stephen Bennett
quote:
Originally posted by matthewr:
Stephen,

You are seriously comparing Battlestar Galatica to The Sopranos? The Sopranos being one of the best TV dramas of (at least) the last 10 years?

When is it on?

Matthew


Would I lie to you?

It's on Mondays & Thursdays (Mix) and probably other days too. It's superb.

Nick; I'm sure it'll be repeated - it's one of the few TV series that keep me from working on a henry fool album. Winker

Stephen
Posted on: 16 November 2004 by garyi
Battle star: Rubbish
Enterprise: Rubbish
24: Rubbish

Grow up people.
Posted on: 16 November 2004 by Stephen Bennett
quote:
Originally posted by garyi:
Battle star: Rubbish
Enterprise: Rubbish
24: Rubbish

Grow up people.


This from a man with a Macintosh

Winker

So what do you like garyi?

Stephen
Posted on: 16 November 2004 by Joe Petrik
quote:
This from a man with a Macintosh


Not only that, but a Mac with a mullet -- long on the screen and video card, but short on the processor. Shameful, really. ;-)

Joe
Posted on: 16 November 2004 by garyi
Oh Joe you beast, 9800 promac SE here Winker

I don't know I am just so pissed with all the sky one tosh of late, its all the same, some sort of sexy but deadly woman, and dark scenery, whoopy do.
Posted on: 16 November 2004 by Joe Petrik
Gary,

quote:
...some sort of sexy but deadly woman...


And your problem with that is...?

Joe
Posted on: 16 November 2004 by TomK
quote:
Originally posted by garyi:

Grow up people.



No.
Posted on: 16 November 2004 by Joe Petrik
Nick,

quote:
I do believe you're morphing into Mr Parry.


Any idea what implication that transformation will have on Gary's spelling and use of the apostrophe?

Joe
Posted on: 16 November 2004 by garyi
Say, say it ain't so Nick.

Perhaps I am infact a sexy young lady infiltrator, come to the naim forum to discuss that which can't be discussed.

Cue dark music, and long panning view of space....
Posted on: 16 November 2004 by JonR
quote:
Originally posted by garyi:
Perhaps I am infact a sexy young lady infiltrator[..]


He isn't - cos I've met him!! Big Grin

Unless of course.....it was a very effective disguise Eek

Winker

JR
Posted on: 16 November 2004 by Dan M
quote:
Originally posted by JonR:
He never seems to find the time to go to the toilet, does he?

JR


Silly, he goes during the commercials - just like the rest of us.

Dan
Posted on: 16 November 2004 by JonR
quote:
Originally posted by Dan M:
quote:
Originally posted by JonR:
He never seems to find the time to go to the toilet, does he?

JR


Silly, he goes during the commercials - just like the rest of us.

Dan


Bugger it, of course!

The thing is I've only ever watched 24 on DVD, which of course have no commercial breaks which means each episode lasts for roughly 40 minutes!

My apologies, everyone, for this terrible oversight.

Big Grin

JR
Posted on: 16 November 2004 by JonR
quote:
Originally posted by Nick Lees:
Jon, I've seen a picture of him. Sheila's up for beatification at the next Bishop's Conclave


With you all the way, Nick!

JR
Posted on: 16 November 2004 by matthewr
Garyi is undoubtedly a Young Fogey but frankly I blame Nick for getting him into stuff like Zappa at an impressionable age.

Dan said "Silly, he goes during the commercials - just like the rest of us"

Originally in the UK it was shown commercial free on the BBC. This threw off all the timings and meant that 24hrs was actually 23hrs 18mins. Personally I felt this dstroyed the srtistic integrity of the piece and the BBC should have broadcast appropriate lengths of blanks screen to restore it.

Matthew
Posted on: 16 November 2004 by garyi
I actually enjoyed murder One all them years ago which spanned 26 episodes or some such, but lets cut to the quick 24 is a bunch of arse.
Posted on: 16 November 2004 by Dan M
quote:
Originally posted by JonR:
The thing is I've only ever watched 24 on DVD, which of course have no commercial breaks which means each episode lasts for roughly 40 minutes!


erm, me too - I've just finished Season 1 disk 1 - but I kind of sussed there were commercials because of the clock thingy.

Matthew: ...and meant that 24hrs was actually 23hrs 18mins

I bet that's closer to 16 hrs. It's not bad so far, but can't see what all the fuss is about over Kim.

Dan