10 cc

Posted by: Toksik on 13 August 2004

just bought a new cd of SHEET MUSIC to replace an ageing cassette of this album.
Wow! my Ikemi is filling out everything the ancient ferrics have lost over the years.
any other afficianados of this "before their time" British quartet?.

dennis
Posted on: 13 August 2004 by Vik
10cc - gone but not forgotten
Posted on: 13 August 2004 by J.N.
Anyone know where the name of the band came from?

The clue is fluid.
Posted on: 13 August 2004 by J.N.
It's a nice story anyway!
Posted on: 14 August 2004 by monkfish
Hi
Check out "The original soundtrack", great album and what a fantastic recording.
Regards
Jim
Posted on: 14 August 2004 by Geoff P
Please, Please do NOT play

"I'm not in love" EVER AGAIN!

I served in a pub bar at the time when it was "THE" big hit. I heard it 20 times a night for however long it was on top of the charts (6 months?). It is a little unfair because it WAS a great single. It was jsut ruined for me because of caesless repetition.

regards
GEOFF

Listening every day planning to "not fade away"
Posted on: 14 August 2004 by rodwsmith
I'm a closet 10cc fan, too.
The best band to have come from Manchester whatever the Gallaghers might like to think. "How Dare You!" is probably my favourite album of theirs.

Interestingly - well okay, mildly divertingly - "I'm Not in Love" was not their best selling single - which was (at the time) "The Things We Do For Love". However I expect the former continues to help fund Eric Stewart's Ferrari collection. He made an album in the 80s called Frooty Rooties (?) which was really good I seem to remember - might have to go dig that one out...

Is all this nostalgia a sign of an impending mid-life crisis I wonder?
Posted on: 14 August 2004 by HTK
I hope not.

Harry
Posted on: 14 August 2004 by Kevin-W
Are you guys being ironic? I hope you are...

10cc were a ghastly, nauseatingly smug group, one of the very worst of the era.

All those terrible, arch pastiches, those condescending lyrics, those flop attempts at satire. Can there be any excuse for dreck like "Dreadlock Holiday" (dangerously close to racist, and proof they weren't as clever as they thought they were), "The Things We Do For Love" and "Life Is a Minestrone"? I don't think so.

How appropriate they got their name from a measure of the discharge created by sex (or, more likely, masturbation).

They're like XTC circa "Only Making Plans For Nigel" and "Generals & Majors", but even worse. Now that's really saying something...

Kevin (Bobbie Gentry: Courtyard - it's so lovely, I had to listen to it three times in a row).
Posted on: 14 August 2004 by P
Hopelessly wrong on both counts.

10cc were the British Steely Dan.

I'm off to give this a spin.... I'm a Neanderthal Man... bish bash bosh... You're a Neanderthal Girl.....bish bash Bosh...

Groovy Man

P
Posted on: 16 August 2004 by Mike Hughes
10cc - four great albums (the first four I would venture) with some "interesting" offshoots.

I have a love for Sheet Music twenty years down the line and it isn't fading. I'm not sure I'd go as far as a British Steely Dan comment (only the later incarnation produced stuff that soulless) but I do think they remain the most under-rated group of their generation and type.

Now, Kevin W - your comment about bad pastiches suggests that you have some knowledge you'd like to share with us about good pastiches. Bring them on.

If anything can beat Donna, The Sacro-Iliac etc. then I have yet to hear them. Please don't cite the Bonzos. I love them but they don't work on record without the visuals.

Mike
Posted on: 16 August 2004 by Kevin-W
Now, Kevin W - your comment about bad pastiches suggests that you have some knowledge you'd like to share with us about good pastiches.

Mike, it does no such thing. I think that pastiches are generally a bad thing in pop 'n' roll (especially when they're done by the likes of 10CC, as there's the constant suspicion they are taking the piss). They just tend to grate. Parodies and homages are OK, but they're not the same, are they?

Kevin (an old Led Zeppelin bootleg tape of quite abysmal sound quality)
Posted on: 17 August 2004 by Mike Hughes
Hmm, I think there is a thin line between pastiche and homage and that, in order to do the former, you must have a love for the form to begin with. The worst ones are where the musicians are competent but nothing special and can't really see inside the form, if you see what I mean. I suppose I'm saying that, by your criteria, the Barron Knights would always score highre with their appalling, second rate parodies than 10cc would with their (granted, too) clever pastiches.

I also think that this discussion suggests 10cc were just about pastiche whereas to me a song like Don't Hang Up is simply a great song with a unique studio technique put into play to give it an identity of its' own. Stuff like the Hospital Song is also just plain, vicously funny.

Maybe the problem is we just don't trust people who are so obviously clever that we start to question why they subvert a form rather than just enjoy it is a subversion or as great music.

When was the last time anything charted with a guitar sound as great as the original Wall Street Shuffle?