Top speed
Posted by: Naheed on 08 May 2004
Given we have a speed camera thread, thought it maybe worth sharing i guess a reason behind why we need them.
So come on chaps whats share the following:
1. Top speed
2. Where
3. Vehicle
4. Did you get caught
naheed. . .
DISCLAIMER - I am not encouraging you to get caught speeding
[This message was edited by Naheed on Sat 08 May 2004 at 19:38.]
So come on chaps whats share the following:
1. Top speed
2. Where
3. Vehicle
4. Did you get caught
naheed. . .
DISCLAIMER - I am not encouraging you to get caught speeding
[This message was edited by Naheed on Sat 08 May 2004 at 19:38.]
Posted on: 27 May 2004 by Steve G
Do not hold up a long queue of traffic, especially if you are driving a large or slow moving vehicle. Check your mirrors frequently, and if necessary, pull in where it is safe and let traffic pass
Posted on: 27 May 2004 by Paul Ranson
The only traffic law that's applied is speed limit enforcement. Why's that then? Are you seriously suggesting that dangerous and arguably illegal behaviour should be tolerated because laws that criminalise safe behaviour are being challenged?
FWIW finding a 'safe place to pull over' is easier said than done. There isn't one for a car-trailer between here and near the M40 for instance. Anyway given I generally cruise at 60 I don't consider myself 'slow moving', just occasionally a bit sluggish.
Paul
FWIW finding a 'safe place to pull over' is easier said than done. There isn't one for a car-trailer between here and near the M40 for instance. Anyway given I generally cruise at 60 I don't consider myself 'slow moving', just occasionally a bit sluggish.
Paul
Posted on: 27 May 2004 by Steve G
From a D of T document.
Top 10 contributory factors in accidents:
1) Inattention - 25.8%
2) Failure to judge another's path or speed - 22.6%
3) Looked but did not see - 19.7%
4) Behaviour: careless/reckless/thoughtless - 18.4%
5) Failed to look - 16.3%
6) Lack of judgement of own path - 13.7%
7) Excessive speed - 12.5%
8) Pedestrian walked out (pedestrian's fault) - 10.9%
9) Poor turn/manoeuvre - 8.4%
10) Slippery road - 8.2%
Figures from Avon and Somerset police (the only force in the UK to make the distinction) reveal that 70% of the "excessive speed" accidents occur within the speed limit.
This would suggest that speeding is therefore only a contributory factor in 3.75% of accidents on UK roads.
Top 10 contributory factors in accidents:
1) Inattention - 25.8%
2) Failure to judge another's path or speed - 22.6%
3) Looked but did not see - 19.7%
4) Behaviour: careless/reckless/thoughtless - 18.4%
5) Failed to look - 16.3%
6) Lack of judgement of own path - 13.7%
7) Excessive speed - 12.5%
8) Pedestrian walked out (pedestrian's fault) - 10.9%
9) Poor turn/manoeuvre - 8.4%
10) Slippery road - 8.2%
Figures from Avon and Somerset police (the only force in the UK to make the distinction) reveal that 70% of the "excessive speed" accidents occur within the speed limit.
This would suggest that speeding is therefore only a contributory factor in 3.75% of accidents on UK roads.
Posted on: 27 May 2004 by Steve G
quote:
Originally posted by Tom Alves:
No one's arguing with that fact that speed is only a small contributory factor.
Are you sure about that?
quote:
What's your point?
Why are the government and police having such a harsh and highly publicised crackdown on something that is such a small factor?
Posted on: 27 May 2004 by Steve G
quote:
Originally posted by Tom Alves:
Let's face it Steve. You'll continue to speed on the motorway and where you believe it is safe to do so and nothing anyone here says is going to stop you, is it?
I'll continue to drive at a speed I judge to be safe, even if that's lower than the speed limit.
[This message was edited by Steve G on Fri 28 May 2004 at 7:22.]
Posted on: 27 May 2004 by Steve G
I was flicking through the channels last night and there was one of those police documentary things on. A policeman pulls out behind a stolen Mondeo and proceeds to chase it through an urban area.
At one point both the Mondeo and the police car are at 90mph+ along a fairly busy street. Policeman said "what kind of person would risk driving here at this speed"? Er - you...
Fair enough he was chasing a criminal but the guy in the Mondeo wasn't driving dangerously until the police car started chasing him and I wasn't convinced that the crime was severe enough for the police to have taken the risks they did (both to themselves and other road users).
Ironically the chap (who'd just been released for prison) was charged with burglary (he'd stolen the car keys during the break-in) and car theft, but apparently not with any driving offences. Going by current figures (10,000 burglars in jail but 15,000 in jail for motoring offences) they'd have got a better sentence (he only got 9 months despite considerable previous) charging him with speeding etc...
Another driver, a white-van man, was seen overtaking twice (including flashing his lights at cars to get out of his way) over double white lines on a road that was supposed to be the 4th most dangerous in the uk. 3 points and a £60 fine.
At one point both the Mondeo and the police car are at 90mph+ along a fairly busy street. Policeman said "what kind of person would risk driving here at this speed"? Er - you...
Fair enough he was chasing a criminal but the guy in the Mondeo wasn't driving dangerously until the police car started chasing him and I wasn't convinced that the crime was severe enough for the police to have taken the risks they did (both to themselves and other road users).
Ironically the chap (who'd just been released for prison) was charged with burglary (he'd stolen the car keys during the break-in) and car theft, but apparently not with any driving offences. Going by current figures (10,000 burglars in jail but 15,000 in jail for motoring offences) they'd have got a better sentence (he only got 9 months despite considerable previous) charging him with speeding etc...
Another driver, a white-van man, was seen overtaking twice (including flashing his lights at cars to get out of his way) over double white lines on a road that was supposed to be the 4th most dangerous in the uk. 3 points and a £60 fine.
Posted on: 02 June 2004 by Simon Perry
Its quite simple really.
All of this lot:
1) Inattention - 25.8%
2) Failure to judge another's path or speed - 22.6%
3) Looked but did not see - 19.7%
4) Behaviour: careless/reckless/thoughtless - 18.4%
5) Failed to look - 16.3%
6) Lack of judgement of own path - 13.7%
8) Pedestrian walked out (pedestrian's fault) - 10.9%
10) Slippery road - 8.2%
an accident is more likely to be avoided or, in the case of accident, serious injury avoided, when the cars are going more slowly. F
Simon
All of this lot:
1) Inattention - 25.8%
2) Failure to judge another's path or speed - 22.6%
3) Looked but did not see - 19.7%
4) Behaviour: careless/reckless/thoughtless - 18.4%
5) Failed to look - 16.3%
6) Lack of judgement of own path - 13.7%
8) Pedestrian walked out (pedestrian's fault) - 10.9%
10) Slippery road - 8.2%
an accident is more likely to be avoided or, in the case of accident, serious injury avoided, when the cars are going more slowly. F
Simon
Posted on: 02 June 2004 by Paul Ranson
And you could completely avoid road accidents by not driving at all. It's a very stupid argument.
I don't think it's a coincidence that since the focus on robotic speed enforcement, arbitrary limit reductions and the removal of traffic police from the roads that the casualty rate has risen. If our roads are going to get more dangerous let's at least be honest about it.
Paul
I don't think it's a coincidence that since the focus on robotic speed enforcement, arbitrary limit reductions and the removal of traffic police from the roads that the casualty rate has risen. If our roads are going to get more dangerous let's at least be honest about it.
Paul
Posted on: 02 June 2004 by Steve G
quote:
Originally posted by Paul Ranson:
And you could completely avoid road accidents by not driving at all. It's a very stupid argument.
Indeed.
Posted on: 03 June 2004 by Rick Weldon
we have just taken delivery of our new "shop"car a brand new 911 turbo to go with our Noble GT 12 and our BMW M coupe we will try our best to stick to the speed limits!
Posted on: 05 June 2004 by Martin D
This is how we will end up......