Slack tarts at Palace let Batman in

Those bits of ruff unwittingly did the dirty work of middle England who where, themselves, opposed to the poll tax.

It was a case of sitting back, letting a bunch of unwashed scum do the protesting in local town halls and giving socialism a bad name. A bonus being, the community charge was introduced, saving the middle classes quite a bit of money.

All we did was sit back and watch it happen.

Thanks for reminding me just how dim witted the "revolutionaries" can be.

Regards

Mick

It is your choice, be a free thinker as you call yourself and die skint.

Become one of the "comfortbble I'm alright Jack Yes Men" and live a comfortable existance with lots of perks and goodies to play with on the way.

It is not so much a question of intellect or ability but more a question of attitude and application. You don't score runs throwing balls, you score them by batting.

The ball is entirely in your court as you are the architect of your own destiny.

Regards

Mick

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Originally posted by Mick Parry:
You don't score runs throwing balls, you score them by batting.
Mick

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So - the Batman is the winner after all then?

I suspect the poor fool will now see less of his children than as was the case before.

Do you call that winning.

I cannot see how you can even sympathise with the fool. He has probably messed up some good campains that were slowly reaping sucess somewhere else.

He has achieved nothing effective.

Regards

Mick

[This message was edited by Mick Parry on Wed 15 September 2004 at 23:12.]

Poll tax would have helped middle england as typically they live in larger house which under the present system attracts a higher tax. Under the Poll tax, the criteria was the number of voters resident in the property -
hence the Tax load would be shared amongst more people, also the more voters in a house the greater the tax yield regardless of the size of the house. A direct relationship between the elegibility of usage of local authority services and the tax yield.

Poll tax has an equivalent to day in the water meter - it takes payement away from being based on house size/value and bases it on the number of people in the house and their life style in the consumption of water.

Poll tax was the fairest taxation system ever proposed in this country - what was wrong was that the tax reduction criteria were not correctly defined for the unemployed.

Derek

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I find myself much in agreement with Mick and the other Pinko Liberals like The Guardian's Catherine Bennett. THe man is basically an idiot and, like Brian, his behaviour just made me think maybe his ex-wife and the courts are probably right to keep him away from his children

Patrick said "... and the 'Family' Courts."

I have some knowledge of this as my Mother worked for Family Court Welfare for many years. From talking to her it's my overwhelming impression that a) the courts if anything err on the side of granting access to both parents and b) in the rare cases where Fathers are denied access there is something very serious going on.

I also my brother had a "recalcitrant ex-wife" who denied him access a number of times for her own ends and at the expense of her children and that in each case it was the family court who restored this access.

Matthew

From Catherine Bennett's article:

"While it is true that some mothers behave vengefully and deny their children's best interests, there is nothing to support the view that such behaviour is either prevalent, or officially approved. On the contrary. A new government green paper, "Parental separation: children's needs and parents' responsibilities", notes that most "non resident-parents" have weekly or more frequent meetings with their children. It finds that in around 90% of cases, child contact arrangements have been agreed informally by separated parents, of whom, more than 80% profess themselves happy with the arrangement. This does not, in short, conform with the F4J blighted vision of "a nation of children without parents and parents without children".

See http://www.guardian.co.uk/Columnists/Column/0,5673,1305608,00.html

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(Apart from exposing all the 'security' at BP as a waste of public money.)

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Errrm, IMHO, you should have written:
"all at BP (are) a waste of public money". Stick them in a sink estate and use that money to help people who really need it. Sorry if that rubs you royalists up the wrong way, but many of them haven't set US a good example. Why would you expect anyone in the "prolateriat" to do so when the royals can't even do that, while sucking ££££ day in day out?

As for the kids/parents thing - in total agreement about it being out of order that the fathers can't see their kids. I bet they still have to PAY for them though. Don't you just love the CSA?

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Don't wanna be cremated or buried in a grave
Just dump me in a plastic bag and leave me on the pavement
A tribute to your modern world, your great society
I'm just another victim of your highrise fantasy!

I admit that I haven't read all of this thread and I'm sure that the situation is very different in different cases but I used to work with a guy who was a member of Fathers 4 Justice and he was a lunatic. He was ex-military, his wife left him because he hit her, he was anti-women, anti-any race other than his own, he believed that the world would be much better off if all muslims were shot, and at the turn of the millenium he illegally broke into the attic of the block of flats he lived in and built a 'camp' with live ammunition and supplies because he believed the world would end. I dread to think what his little boy will end up like when he is older but if his father was anything to go by then it aint gonna be pretty.

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Originally posted by Derek Wright:

Poll tax was the fairest taxation system ever proposed in this country ...............

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Apart from the way it was trialed. Had it been implemented across the whole of the UK and not just in Scotland it might have worked.

You use - you pay. Seems logical.