Revolver (TT) VS Repa P3

Alco,
Many years ago now I was inroduced to hifi by a friend who had a system that consisted of a Revolver, Nad 3020e, and JPW P1s. FRom what I remember it was a very musical system and it used to annoy me that in many ways it was better than my system that had cost more money and was fronted by a Linn Axis. So I would say yes it is in the same league as a Planar 3 and if you can get it for a good price then go for it. My only concern would be that the deck may be quite old now because I don't think they have made them for a few years. Spares may also be a problem. BTW you can also upgrade the Revolver by replacing the arm with a Linn one since they use the same template.
John

Music is the answer.

Thanks for your reply, John.

I found out that the Revolver Turntable must
be about 12 years old now.
Last year I could demo it at home. I wasn't impressed really, but the dealer sait that is was
beacause of the standard.cheap AT cartridge that was included on this TT.
I could get the TT for 1000,- Dutch guilders.
(290 UKP)
Would a Rega arm also fit on this deck ?

Hi Alco,

A friend of mine had a Revolver turntable and had a few problems with pitch instability, so make sure it plays at a constant speed.

Also, I picked up a Linn LP12 last year with Valhalla supply and basik arm for £350. The deck is a late 80's model in black ash. It may be worth keeping your eyes open for a deal like this.

Best wishes,

Mick Dale

Alco--

If the Rega 3 is within your budget than buy that in preference to the Revolver. The Revolver was a good table but more competitive with a Rega 2. Also, since Rega is still around you won't have to worry about replacement parts or service.

Cheers and good luck !

Bob+

Really liked it
mine had the linn basik arm and at95 cartridge--the later ones had a cheaper platter and a revolver badged ?inferior mission arm.
Had great rythm--the motor was deliberatly not isolated from the top plinth--but the plinth was tuned till it sounded good by 2 lead wts hanging off the back.
Fantastic musical midrange but bass and treble extension limited.
Was great with my old rotel 820BX amp(a classic) but when I went for an s/h 42.5/110--it sounded so limitedat the freq. extremes--?would be improved by a better cartridge.

Many preferred it to a rega P3(I did I liked in ya face presentation through my upfront heybrook HB1's)--?more musical with a budget amp(rega can sound cold/over controlled)--But not in the same league for detail and dynamics.Regawill be much better with midrange amps + fantastic arm will cope with any cartridge thrown at it(an upgrade route)--unlike the basik or revolver arm(also ? more fragile+worn out).

Cheers Richard

PS old LP12/basik+ arm can be got for £200-250 in the UK--add a £20 cartridge and your ears will be on another planet.--even an un tuned lp12 sounds better than a rega P3--? stretch to nirvana.
PPs plinth would need drilling +filling for a rega arm

[This message was edited by Richard Paget on SUNDAY 07 January 2001 at 16:55.]

[This message was edited by Richard Paget on SUNDAY 07 January 2001 at 16:57.]

Bob,

It was the Revolver Rebel that was the contempory of the Planar 2. The Revolver deck was definitely Revolver's equivalent of the Planar 3.

Very nicely styled turntables, sadly no more - I believe the company unsuccessfully moved into loudspeakers.

Andrew

Andrew Randle
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Thanx, guys.

Well, I think I'll wait a while and look around
for other TT's on the net and in stores.
I know there are many s/h LP12's for sale in the
UK. Unfortunatly, I live in Holland and it's
very hard to find a s/h Linn LP12 around here.
(let alone for the low prices they go for in the UK)

I afraid to order a s/h LP12 from a UK dealer and
let is sent to Holland. (to risky, I think..)

Too bad that the P3 looks like shit.(IMHO)

O,well. we'll see what it's gonna be..
I think a little patience here might be rewarding

Thanx, guys.

Well, I think I'll wait a while and look around
for other TT's on the net and in stores.
I know there are many s/h LP12's for sale in the
UK. Unfortunatly, I live in Holland and it's
very hard to find a s/h Linn LP12 around here.
(let alone for the low prices they go for in the UK)

I afraid to order a s/h LP12 from a UK dealer and
let is sent to Holland. (to risky, I think..)

Too bad that the P3 looks like shit.(IMHO)

O,well. we'll see what it's gonna be..
I think a little patience here might be rewarding

Actually, I reckon the P3 looks good - particularly if you choose the 'kermit green' colour.

Also it kind of has a good solidty to it.

Andrew

Andrew Randle
2B || !2B;
4 ^ = ?;

Andrew--

Thanks for the gentle correction--I had spaced on the Rebel. I still he think he is better off with a Rega--if only because parts are and will be available and it doesn't sound like the price differential is nearly big enough.

Cheers,

Bob

Thanx for the advice, James.

Well, what I find so spooky about buying something
(unseen) on the internet is:
- A (s/h) TT is a delicate piece op equipment. So
I just have to believe the dealers word, since
I would have to order it blindly.
- How do I have to pay ?
(don't own a visa/creditcard)
- Can it be sent to me and that I pay for it when
I recieve it ? (in Holland that's called "rembours")
- How long does it normally take to get a TT (or whatever) from UK to Holland ?

(...Hope my English is good enough)

Thanx for all the help,

Greetings,
Alco.

Howdee,
I upgraded from my revolver in 1990 with linn basik lvx arm(see above)----to a very dodgy Lp12--it had been painted black long b4 black was available(for a BBC drama)--
(i'm just so cutting edge sometimes)being a student it didn't get a service for years--and was very unbouncy.(I resisted the temptation to paint on technicolor flowers--ahhh students)
But even in this state of repair with Basik plus arm it was not in the same postcode as the revolver--huge improvement.
A service several yrs later made a big difference again though.
People make huge comments on how fiddly the lp12 is....
BUT
its a upper midprice deck(new) available for a bargain S/H(although old Afromosa looks awful)
Untuned it sounds upper midprice deck(thus still good value)
People moan that it takes a £50-100 service to get it sounding better than nearly every deck on the planet(most far more expensive).

Go for an Lp12 if you can--as long as the bearing is good and the top plate not too bent.
Regardo from Ricardo

David
You're right the lp12 top plate is made too big on purpose for self damping and should have a slight bend across its free edge(along the arm board)
If the chassis bolts have been overtightened however the top plate can lift off from intimate contact with the plinth--tapping the edge of the top plate should be dull--it rings a bit where it has lifted.
esp. a problem near the motor--latest lp12's have an extra bolt brased on underneath to make it more resistant to dealer abuse!
The older ones I have seen tend to dip a bit around the chassis bolts also.
The sub platter with the belt off should take a very long time to stop after being spun if the bearing and oil are good.

cheerio Richard