How do I tell if a Rolex is genuine?

So why pay £2000 instead of £20?
All metal comes from the ground. At what time does it become a brand name?

When does a brand name become time ?

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Originally posted by Berlin Fritz:
I can't believe you guys sometimes, at least I waste my time gettin drunk !

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I waste no time getting drunk.

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Originally posted by Rasher:
So why pay £2000 instead of £20?
All metal comes from the ground. At what time does it become a brand name?

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There is definitly no "replica"on the market
that is that waterproof and pressureproof than the original,also the original rolex has iside 25 or 26 diamonds while the imitates have only 21 to 23 diamonds.( amaseurement for the quality and accuraccy of an automatikwatch.)
also there are no platin replicas on the market
and white gold or coated replicas have not the same optical quality after years like platin has.
And:rolex is a good quality watch if you accept
the following: the high price
they build n o own ingredients (use alway eta ingridientsbuilt by hayeks swatch group)
rolex Have a lot of very different customer groups and there o n l y relationship is that they have the m o n e y to buy those watches.
so i would say:buy or not to buy,but not sinful
to discuss the rational reasons for the decision (cause there is nothing rational buying a luxury good like that)
o.j.

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there were also original rolex without saphirglass in the past(do not about submariner,but also newman daytona had no saphire glass),and be sure:you cant
notice the difference of ticker movement concerning a top replica.
O.J.

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Originally posted by Berlin Fritz:
I can't believe you guys sometimes, at least I waste my time gettin drunk !


Graham George Von Badwineisanono

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and what about your last TWO THOUSAND posts?

I was referring tom the subject matter old son, innit.

G.G.von. Bloggin

And why exactly do you think the subject matter was a waste of time, dear Fritz?

Because when the heart of the Oyster has dissolved into the Champagne time is no longer of the essence, it is the essence !


G.G.V. Chickentimexagain²

get help

What, you were expecting a coherent answer? Fritz has an image to uphold!

Time (like money and mathematics) exists only in our heads.

Deane

i have been looking for months now, at fake/replica watches. you can get replicas which cost $1200 and claim to be indestinguishable from the real thing unless you open them up and take them apart. look at www.replicawatchguide. com for all the info.

what were barn owls called before barns were invented?

http://www.replica-watches-guide.com/

Stuart

20 years ago people said that the best IBM pc are the competitions.
Does a fake roli show a differ hour than the real one?
Go for Omega!

Arye

Just had a listen my sub sound's like it beats 4 to a second

Stuart

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Originally posted by Rockingdoc:
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She was always firey, but could spot the real thing at 30 paces like any true money-head, her Rolex caught fire itself eventually though, innit.

Pearl was a singer ! loved Champagne too.

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All metal comes from the ground. At what time does it become a brand name?

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Interesting question in itself.

A Rolex costs as much as it cost because of the value of the brand as such. Not because they keep time better than other watches (they don't, b.t.w.).

This is important in all branches of modern merchandizing, cars, training shoes, cofee machines etc. etc. Your product can cost exactly as much as your brand is valued. You can charge £ 100000 for a Mercedes, but not for a Skoda (even if the £ 100000 Skoda was a better car than the Merc). This is of course not new or revolutionasion.

In fact, what I find quite amusing is how people keep tab on the ranking of brands in different market categories. "Are you buying a Fiat! Oh, god are you completely out of your mind!", "A BMW! They are very nice.", from someone who have never driven any of them.

Even more amusing is that in "our" niche, HiFi, "ordinary" people do this to, without having a clue to what is REALLY the good stuff!

JohanR

One thing I've noticed is that Rolexes use a very high (hard?) grade steel that withstands scuffs and scratches very well. A know someone who's worn a GMT every day for 20 years and it still looks basically new. Forget name branding, that's the kind of thing that impresses me.
I'm not aware of antoher watch company whose products are so impervous to wear; I've had a number of watches, all beautifully screwed together, but they'll scuff up just like any Timex would.

That said Rolexes are still old guy watches

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Originally posted by Mike Sae:
One thing I've noticed is that Rolexes use a very high (hard?) grade steel that withstands scuffs and scratches very well. A know someone who's worn a GMT every day for 20 years and it still looks basically new. Forget name branding, that's the kind of thing that impresses me.
I'm not aware of antoher watch company whose products are so impervous to wear; I've had a number of watches, all beautifully screwed together, but they'll scuff up just like any Timex would.

That said Rolexes are still old guy watches

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Rolex steel is good.But a lot of others on the market use the same quality for their watches.What is really a sign of quality
are rolex bracelets.Oywster and presidentialbracelet are from their technical design and their building Quality better than the bracelets of most other manufactureres.
Often you do not notice why.but the bracelets are one of the secrets why an old rolex looks
so new after years of use.
O.J.(Always trying to find out rational reasons
for notsorational decisions)

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Originally posted by JohanR:


A Rolex costs as much as it cost because of the value of the brand as such. Not because they keep time better than other watches (they don't, b.t.w.).

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We live in a lightly regulated free market in which:

1) Goods are sold at the highest price that the market can possibly bear.

2) Labour is bought at the lowest price that the market can possibly bear.

These prices are not connected to anything other than willingness on the part of both the consumers of the goods or the providers of labour.

The concept of "value" is not by necessity linked to the expenditure of energy. Competition in the marketplace does achieve a working relationship between the expenditure of energy and price - but there is no necessary link.

I'd like to see what would happen to the price of a NAC552 if somebody else was doing (or able to do) exactly what Naim is doing. (I personally think that Naim could be asking a lot more and people would pay it - just look at the prices of other brands in Hifi - but Naim has a unique product and a unique (honest) way of selling and supporting it.)

Deane

I wear a Sector divers watch which has lived on my wrist every single day for 9 years. It's scuffed, sure, but not beyond polishing up to look like new. It was about £400, which I think is a good balance between quality and being too worried to wear it every day.
I have a 1968 Omega Seamaster that is like brand new and I use that when I dress up.
To be honest, I can't see the sense in paying thousands for a watch when you can buy something basically the same for loose change - but I still would. I know it's mad, but I would love a Brietling.

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Originally posted by Rasher:
I wear a Sector divers watch which has lived on my wrist every single day for 9 years. It's scuffed, sure, but not beyond polishing up to look like new. It was about £400, which I think is a good balance between quality and being too worried to wear it every day.
I have a 1968 Omega Seamaster that is like brand new and I use that when I dress up.
To be honest, I can't see the sense in paying thousands for a watch when you can buy something basically the same for loose change - but I still would. I know it's mad, but I would love a Brietling.

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Sector is indeed one of the best watches.
Mine is achronograph with date and "wecker"do not know the english word.Perfect built housing
and ultrahard saphirglass.that all for 350 euros.I wear it allways when i work.
the only better watch i know on the whole world
market is:Omega speedmaster x33
because of: housing out of titan and therefore a lot easier and harder.

two times readable at the same moment.

date with weekday(always on the digital display)

simplest andbest ever handling of all function i ve seen on awatch.

batterie driven display lightning and flourescanting display.

there is no competitor at any price on the market. Does not matter if your job is on earth
or you are astronaut.Yes its the official nasa watch at the moment.
Only lackrestige of an automatic watch.its a quartz (automatic does not work in space)

and best thing:it costs only 2500 euros. a bargain against the other competitors of the (so called)top class watches
O.J.
from its function a casio g shock has nearby the same possibilities but :n o t that easy handling that p e r f e c t overview(omega is analoug and digital mixed in away you could n o t do it better) and n o t that built quality,and materials.
O.J.

Every time I see a Rolex on someone's wrist I wonder whether it is a fake (royalty/overpaid sportsperson/opera diva excepted). There are thousands and thousands of these around.

I don't know about everyone else but if I'd paid top dollar for the genuine article I would not want people questioning the integrity of the piece.

I used to have a genuine TAG Heuer and got sick of people asking me if it was real. So I sold it and got a Breitling Chronomat. Awesome watch which is built like a brick shithouse. If there are fakes of these around, there's no way they will look as beautifully finished or feel as solid as my watch.

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One thing I've noticed is that Rolexes use a very high (hard?) grade steel that withstands scuffs and scratches very well. A know someone who's worn a GMT every day for 20 years and it still looks basically new. Forget name branding, that's the kind of thing that impresses me.
I'm not aware of antoher watch company whose products are so impervous to wear; I've had a number of watches, all beautifully screwed together, but they'll scuff up just like any Timex would.

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Rolex do have very good braclets and good case finishing, they are made to be durable workhorse watchs. However their image is much like many items desired by chavs, so it's up to you whether you subscribe to this image. Additionally their movements are poor (for the price) the company does nothing inovative (movement wise especially), i.e. little R&D. They are however pretty reliable due to putting well proven movements into oversize robust cases.

Due to their marketing success however they are likely to be the only proper watchmaker the layman has heard of (the likes of JLC, Audemars, and Patek being unknown outside particular circles)