RAW

Garyi

I thought similar with my D70 and I now shoot everything on RAW. All you will do is buy more memory cards !!!!

Have fun !

Signature - surely it's just a Naim ?

Or you could just learn to get the exposure right in the first place...

Matthew I am useless, with the raw format it tells me what the exposure and other settings were, I am looking at this as kind of backwards learning.

For all the many articles I have read I still have not got to grips with even the fundamentals of photography, I can't deny it.

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Originally posted by garyi:
For all the many articles I have read I still have not got to grips with even the fundamentals of photography, I can't deny it.

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So, just like with computing then?

Pot, Kettle



John

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Originally posted by long-time-dead:
All you will do is buy more memory cards !!!!

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Surely, RAW files are smaller than TIFFs?

cheers, Martin

exposure meters on digicams are not exactly reliable. Unless you use an external meter, then RAW really helps. If automatic in-camera jpeg creation were always correct why would pros shoot in RAW foremat.

I shoot RAW when I don't have enough time to faff with settings and only jpeg when I am effectively in point & shoot mode. RAW can be difficult to shoot continuously as camera may
have inadequate buffer. This is definitely an instance of where it makes sense to RTFM before shooting.

The other problem is the software needed to work with the RAW files - the camera developers and software bods seem often to be out of synch. I would imagine for most people it is easier to rely on in-camera compression and avoiding the fiddle of working with RAW, unless you understand the format and software and can build a series of workflows.

Having followed the 35mm or digital thread, I too have purchased an EOS300D with a free case for £500. I have been reading the manual but unfortunately my 1GB memory card hasnt arrived yet. A few questions on this:

1. Can you explain why my 5m pixel Minolta Tif files are 15Mb in size, yet Canon quote only 7Mb for a 6m pixel RAW which includes an embedded Jpeg

2. I ordered the 80x CF card to improve write speed cas my Minolta takes approx 10secs to write a 5m Tif file to a 32x SD card, are you saying the buffered SLR will be no quicker?

3. Am I correct in thinking Photoshop will not read RAW files and you have to use Canons provided software

Just curious, although I know all will become clear when the CF card arrives

Bosh, wait until tomorrow and chat with my mate lee, who is going to manchester with us... He is a real whizz/anorak/pro when it comes to digital cameras and can talk you to death about it!

andy c!

Bosh Photoshop doe read raw, if you have an older version goto their website and download the RAW pluggin, it is free.

I wish we still had P.T's.

Bosch,

1) Raw files are smaller because they hold less information such as sharpening, colour balance etc.... and the embedded file is not a full blown jpeg. Consider it as an "unzipped" file.

2) One could safely say, card speed and camera write-to-card speed have very little in common. I have 12x and 24x cards that work quicker than a 40x card in the same camera. Which card goes with which camera model? a lot of it is luck. Camera manufacturers work with particular card manufacturers on particular models.

3) The latest Photoshop CS works with RAW.

Thanks for the replies. The card arrived Saturday and have had chance to experiment over the weekend

Garyi - I only have photoshop elements (1 & 2) and can only find a full photoshop RAW plug-in, are you aware of an Elements RAW plug-in

CountD - the write speed is no problem as long as you dont continuous shoot more than 6 shots as the camera buffer fills and you have to wait around 10-15 secs for it to empty. The upload speed to PC is very slow though (I think it is only USB1) I must get a card reader