Maxine Carr
Posted by: Alex S. on 14 May 2004
Give the poor woman a break, I say. And I say this as someone with small beautiful girls whose worst nightmare is what happened in Soham.
Posted on: 17 May 2004 by greeny
If you could trust the tabloid press in this country not to stir up a cloud of hatred, then we wouldn't need to spend so much money on her protection. Unfortunately you know without this that the Sun/Mail etc would have their Child Killer lives 50 meters from your daughters school headlines in place within weeks.
I don't believe Carr is a danger to anyone, She has served her sentance, She isn't Myra Hindley.
I don't believe Carr is a danger to anyone, She has served her sentance, She isn't Myra Hindley.
Posted on: 17 May 2004 by bigmick
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Its ironic that her Fraudulent behaviour went unnoticed
I don’t think that it is ironic. Criminal investigation on one matter often turns up other transgressions, though I’m surprised that the CPS bothered in this case. Considering that benefit fraud is running at around £2bn yearly, a grand total of £4k over 6 years is hardly the stuff of movie scripts. This level of fraud barely gets blinked at and in the grand scheme of things is piffling.
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Lying to provide an alibi for Ian huntley would have been second nature, bearing in mind the deception involved in committing the benefit frauds.
Denial of cohabitation on benefit declarations accounts for a huge amount of benefit fraud and embellishment of educational and employment records is even more popular today than ever; with people from all walks of society and class. Of course it’s wrong, all fraud is, but it’s farcical and a flight from reality to suggest that since she lied about living with her partner to get extra HB or IC or embellished her educational record to get a job in a school or a flipping fish factory then it was a smooth and predictable transition to providing an alibi for her murderous lover. Her actions are indefensible, but the suggested corollary is really quite daft, unrealistic and perfectly exemplifies why public hysteria should always be ignored in respect of individual cases.
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It does seem an injustice that she has not gone to prison for her dishonesty, whereas other people have.
I’m surprised to hear that other people have been given a custodial sentence for similar charges. Is this based on anything? It might be right but it doesn’t sound right to me. As Judge Pollard said, he did max out the Order. Without knowing the details of the Order, one can’t really comment on how it will work, though I would have thought that the supervision element at least, would have been fairly easy.
Posted on: 17 May 2004 by Rockingdoc
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Originally posted by Laurie Saunders:
[I propose a law to allow shooting of people who wire their speakers out of phase
]
Hang on mate, it was an honest mistake. I've got them wired correctly now.
With regard to the serious subject. I suspect that Huntley was a persuasive, controlling and probably frightening partner for Ms Carr. Several other women seem to have been under his spell in the past. She wasn't even in the same county when he comitted his crimes. I see her more as a victim than a monster.
At the time of the trials, I expressed my doubts that she needed a jail sentence at all, and was genuinely shocked and surprised by the anger this generated. I had to leave the party I was at to avoid probable physical assault. I remain confused. Why do so many people focus on some selected crimes and become so deeply emotionally involved that they want to attack anyone who doesn't agree?
Nobody seems to want to punch me for taking the piss out of speed-manics, like those posting here last week, and as a body they kill far more than two little girls. Should their partners be shamed for not shopping them to the police?