Rufus Wainwright, Audiences, Ageing...

Posted by: kj burrell on 10 November 2004

Went to see Rufus Wainwrght on Monday. One of those great concerts where the sound is pretty perfect, the performance is blissful and all you want to do for the next week is play the records on rotation - which is what I've done. For me, great live music should actually enhance the enjoyment of the recordings: before the concert I didn't realise that "Dinner at Eight" was one of the best songs I have in my collection: now I know. Glorious stuff. A song to his father - who I saw years back - that starts " No matter how strong /I'm going to take you down with one little stone/ I'm going to break you down and see what you're worth" Awesome.

But

Something that's started to really annoy me at some recent concerts is the fact that large sections of the audience are not, apparently, there to hear music! The same thing happened at Yo La Tengo last year: I had to tell a group of wittering twits to shut up so I could hear the music without their inane chatter running over the top of it. At Nick Cave I was constantly getting up so people could come/go with drinks. At Rufus Wainwright a group stood with their backs to the music talking at the top of their voices. About 6 different people told them to quieten down but to no avail. Nearby a group of lads who looked like they expected Oasis were telling jokes, laughing about and generally having a good time - but they'd paid £30 each for tickets and we could hear them over the music for most of the concert.

Mind you, there is an upside. when Wainwright sang "Vibrate" on of the noisy buggers took a vibrator out of his pocket and rubbed it against his partner's cheek! Destroyed the song but I'm still laughing about it.

Part of the problem - not with the sex toy - is that concerts don't seem as loud as they used to be. My ears don't buzz the next day and you can,if you choose, converse over the top.

Same problem in cinemas, people chatting, taking phone calls. I blame the decline in church attendance: people just don't know how to sit quietly any more.

Bah!!
Mad
Kevin
Posted on: 11 November 2004 by Shayman
Having read some reviews (which I no longer have for reference) I'm planning on starting off on Rufus sometime soon. Which album would you recommend buying first? Start at the beginning as I always recommend to people or has he had a mid career classic that should come first?

Any info would be greatly received.

Cheers

Jonathan
Posted on: 12 November 2004 by greeny
quote:
is that concerts don't seem as loud as they used to be.


I suspect you are seeing different types of acts than U used to.

Queens of the Stange Age were plenty loud enough when I saw them in Nottingham Big Grin.

As for Rufus. I think he's only done 3 albums all of which have had excellent review. I only have his latest (Want One), and whilst I think it is good, much of it is spoilt by over lush arrangements with full orchestral passages and many-throated harmonies.
Posted on: 12 November 2004 by kj burrell
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much of it is spoilt by over lush arrangements with full orchestral passages and many-throated harmonies.


I'm not a great fan of the first CD, but "Poses" and "Want One" are both played a lot. Poses is a little sharper and more consistent but "Want One" has great lush arrangements with full orchestral passages and many-throated harmonies! "Want One" is, as far as I know, the only CD I own with "directors commentary" style content if you play it on your laptop - basically Rufus Wainwright talking over each song telling the lstener about it. Not a great idea, methinks, much as I like him!

quote:
I suspect you are seeing different types of acts than U used to.

Queens of the Stange Age were plenty loud enough when I saw them in Nottingham


Even Sonic Youth were quiet a few months back Frown



Kevin
Posted on: 14 November 2004 by Mike Hanson
Poses is my favourite, while the other two get spun quite often as well. I've seen him live twice now, here in Toronto. The first was solo, warming up for Tori Amos. Although I enjoyed Tori's performance, it wasn't nearly as good as the first time I saw her. It didn't help that Rufus blew her away.

The second time he was headlining with a full band (including his sister Martha). This was fun, but I actually enjoyed the first performance better. Then again, I've always preferred small and intimate to big and impressive. I also find that the strength of the songs is more obvious with the smaller-scale production.

Both of these concerts were in formal auditoriums (i.e. not drinking establishments, with tables & chairs, people standing around, etc.). Therefore, the attendees were more focused on the matter at hand. I usually can't stand seeing any act in a bar setting, for many of the reasons listed above.

-=> Mike Hanson <=-
Posted on: 16 November 2004 by O
I'd say 'Poses' is his best... I saw Rufus in Camden (Lock 17, really nice venue) a few months ago, and he was on good form. I must say though that I find his work slightly egocentric, and his on-stage persona didn't do much to dispel that impression. He got Beth Orton up to sing with him though, which was fun. Incidentally I saw his sister Martha last week, she was very good... still prefer their mother and aunt though!
O

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