System Pics 2005
Posted by: Steve Toy on 05 November 2004
Further to Geoff P's marvellous pics on This thread, a new year and a new thread to post pics of your pride and joy (all-Naim or at least part-Naim) awaits so that we can all get nit-picky about placement issues - to your ultimate sonic benefit! 
Regards,
Steve.
[This message was edited by Adam Meredith on Thu 11 November 2004 at 20:32.]
Regards,
Steve.
[This message was edited by Adam Meredith on Thu 11 November 2004 at 20:32.]
Posted on: 01 April 2005 by kuma
quote:Originally posted by gusi:
The listening chair
gusi,
Which tweeters are those?
And what is the vintage of your 'Briks?
Posted on: 01 April 2005 by gusi
Kuma,
They are from '87. The external cross overs are stashed away on wooden blocks behind the speakers.
The dealer called the tweeters "Polymers". They have three protective brackets across them. (Should have had those when I was sharing my house with a cat)
Unfortunately it spend more time sleeping on the speakers than listening to it.
cheers
Gus
They are from '87. The external cross overs are stashed away on wooden blocks behind the speakers.
The dealer called the tweeters "Polymers". They have three protective brackets across them. (Should have had those when I was sharing my house with a cat)
Unfortunately it spend more time sleeping on the speakers than listening to it.
cheers
Gus
Posted on: 01 April 2005 by kuma
quote:The dealer called the tweeters "Polymers". They have three protective brackets across them.
gusi,
thanks for the info. Are they also by Scanspeaks?
Posted on: 01 April 2005 by Geoff P
By popular request. (Well at least one person asked).
I moved my speakers to the other leg of my "L" shaped living room and as can be seen they are now firing across the short width rather than down the long length.
Result is a defenite improvement, the bass in particular has tightened up nicely and the image is better spread between the speakers and somehow slightly more alive. In theory the 1st audible room node has moved up from 32Hz to 50Hz but it hardly sounds at all. This stuff about firing across the room really works, at least for me.
HERE WE GO.......
OH BTW... You might notice I did have to lightly stuff the rear firing ports due to their proximity to the back wall but it does'nt seem to have deadened the dynamics at all.
If you are wondering the Naim kit is round the corner down the end where the TT is.
regards
Geoff
I moved my speakers to the other leg of my "L" shaped living room and as can be seen they are now firing across the short width rather than down the long length.
Result is a defenite improvement, the bass in particular has tightened up nicely and the image is better spread between the speakers and somehow slightly more alive. In theory the 1st audible room node has moved up from 32Hz to 50Hz but it hardly sounds at all. This stuff about firing across the room really works, at least for me.
HERE WE GO.......
OH BTW... You might notice I did have to lightly stuff the rear firing ports due to their proximity to the back wall but it does'nt seem to have deadened the dynamics at all.
If you are wondering the Naim kit is round the corner down the end where the TT is.
regards
Geoff
Posted on: 01 April 2005 by JonR
Nice pics, Geoff - has the position of the Naim kit changed or is it still in the same place?
I must say, though, the photos really show up the excellent finish of your Totems - is that maple?
Cheers,
Jon
I must say, though, the photos really show up the excellent finish of your Totems - is that maple?
Cheers,
Jon
Posted on: 01 April 2005 by kuma
Geoff,
Did the listening distance change?
How far are you sitting from your speakers?
And ditto.
A beautiful finish on the Mani.( much prettier than the visiting pregnant nuns )
Did the listening distance change?
How far are you sitting from your speakers?
And ditto.
A beautiful finish on the Mani.( much prettier than the visiting pregnant nuns )
Posted on: 01 April 2005 by sjust
Nice and somehow organic setup, Geoff (although I wonder why you have moved everything. Sacrificed all your working place, huh ?) and - good to hear about the sonic improvements !
Now...
Count slowly back from 100 down to zero until somebody realizes you have two SOLID WALLS now, right behind the speakers.

Stefan
Now...
Count slowly back from 100 down to zero until somebody realizes you have two SOLID WALLS now, right behind the speakers.
Stefan
Posted on: 01 April 2005 by Geoff P
In order:
Yes it is Maple and I do like the finish
Speakers 2.2 meters apart. Speaker to ear distance 2.4 meters so it just fits the golden triangle ratio. Before the speakers were the same distance apart but I sat 3.2 meters away.
I moved to experiment and to get the HiFi output well away from the surround speakers. I happen to have a cheap pair of KEF uniQ's which are now doing duty as the rear speakers. My thread about crap B&W's & a subwoofer refers to the CM2's which are now doing duty as the front speakers in the surround sound "area".
PLEASE NOTETwo solid walls does NOT...I repeat NOT = Pregnant Penguin's

Yes it is Maple and I do like the finish
Speakers 2.2 meters apart. Speaker to ear distance 2.4 meters so it just fits the golden triangle ratio. Before the speakers were the same distance apart but I sat 3.2 meters away.
I moved to experiment and to get the HiFi output well away from the surround speakers. I happen to have a cheap pair of KEF uniQ's which are now doing duty as the rear speakers. My thread about crap B&W's & a subwoofer refers to the CM2's which are now doing duty as the front speakers in the surround sound "area".
PLEASE NOTETwo solid walls does NOT...I repeat NOT = Pregnant Penguin's
Posted on: 01 April 2005 by kuma
quote:Originally posted by Geoff P:
PLEASE NOTETwo solid walls does NOT...I repeat NOT = Pregnant Penguin's
![]()
Damn..
But.. it's the PERFECT spot for 'em!
Posted on: 08 April 2005 by Gaffer74
Small update here.
Have just bought a MF X-Cans SET valve head amp (pristine condition for the princely sum of only £60
). Here is a wide shot including my Sennheiser HD575 headphones (I'm not sure what the title of these are...?Symphony):
and here's a close up of the headamp:
.
As an aside, I didn't recieve anything with the amp ("sold as seen", no box or instructions). Does anyone know what valves it uses? I also assume the original purchae date would've been about 5 years ago? In which case, when would I need to go about replacing them roughly?
Thanx for any info.
Have just bought a MF X-Cans SET valve head amp (pristine condition for the princely sum of only £60
and here's a close up of the headamp:
.As an aside, I didn't recieve anything with the amp ("sold as seen", no box or instructions). Does anyone know what valves it uses? I also assume the original purchae date would've been about 5 years ago? In which case, when would I need to go about replacing them roughly?
Thanx for any info.
Posted on: 08 April 2005 by JamesJones
There are US and European names for the valves used in all MF X-Cans 1/2/3-
ECC88(Eur)/6DJ8(US). Better quality generally are E88CC/6922. Even better still usually are
E188CC/7308. Then the CCa.
See http://www.audiotubes.com/6dj8.htm.
I liked the gold pinned Amperex Orange Label best. Some good deals on Ebay usually.
regards
ECC88(Eur)/6DJ8(US). Better quality generally are E88CC/6922. Even better still usually are
E188CC/7308. Then the CCa.
See http://www.audiotubes.com/6dj8.htm.
I liked the gold pinned Amperex Orange Label best. Some good deals on Ebay usually.
regards
Posted on: 08 April 2005 by Gaffer74
Thank you James...I'll mosey on over to e-bay in a bit 
Posted on: 09 April 2005 by Miller
My System in the beginning of 2004
CD5/Nait5i/Focal Onyx
Made an Upgrade to CD5/FC2/112/150/Focal Onyx
And made a second Upgrade to CDX2/200/HI2/NAPSC/200/Custom Onyx
regards
Martin
CD5/Nait5i/Focal Onyx
Made an Upgrade to CD5/FC2/112/150/Focal Onyx
And made a second Upgrade to CDX2/200/HI2/NAPSC/200/Custom Onyx
regards
Martin
Posted on: 09 April 2005 by Geoff P
Martin
Welcome and may I say that looks like a nice system, well setup. Interesting speakers. Is that a do it yourself replacement of the standard cones?
Tell us more!
regards
GEOFF
Welcome and may I say that looks like a nice system, well setup. Interesting speakers. Is that a do it yourself replacement of the standard cones?
Tell us more!
regards
GEOFF
Posted on: 09 April 2005 by mtuttleb
quote:Speakers 2.2 meters apart. Speaker to ear distance 2.4 meters so it just fits the golden triangle ratio. Before the speakers were the same distance apart but I sat 3.2 meters away.
Geoff,
At that distance don't you find you are listening to the tweeters?
quote:quote:
Originally posted by Geoff P:
PLEASE NOTETwo solid walls does NOT...I repeat NOT = Pregnant Penguin's
Damn..
But.. it's the PERFECT spot for 'em!![]()
You all beat me to it....
Posted on: 09 April 2005 by Miller
Geoff
Thanks
, yes but the replacement was done by the guys which made the former (1980-90) Focal design and sales for Germany. I like them very much! They are easy to drive and match perfectly to the Naim Sound.
regards
Martin
Thanks
regards
Martin
Posted on: 09 April 2005 by Miller
Geoff
As you can see from a different angel we placed the crossover in a separate box.
I’ve called them Unique Onyx. The Drivers are custom made respectively very special Focal Chassis.
Regards
Martin
As you can see from a different angel we placed the crossover in a separate box.
I’ve called them Unique Onyx. The Drivers are custom made respectively very special Focal Chassis.
Regards
Martin
Posted on: 09 April 2005 by Lee Brindley
My system - see other post for full spec!
Posted on: 09 April 2005 by Lee Brindley
Closer up
Posted on: 09 April 2005 by Lee Brindley
Bedroom system.
Posted on: 09 April 2005 by Alco
Hi Lee,
Nice pic's & Nice systems!
I see that you're using the PENaudio Rebels on their sub-stands.
I'm a regular customer of a Sonneteer/PENaudio dealer, and he's very enthousiastig about these small miraculous speakers.
But,...he also told me that these PENaudio speakers need lots of space behing them.
I see you are using the Rebels very close to the wall.
regards,
Alco
Nice pic's & Nice systems!
I see that you're using the PENaudio Rebels on their sub-stands.
I'm a regular customer of a Sonneteer/PENaudio dealer, and he's very enthousiastig about these small miraculous speakers.
But,...he also told me that these PENaudio speakers need lots of space behing them.
I see you are using the Rebels very close to the wall.
regards,
Alco
Posted on: 09 April 2005 by Lee Brindley
I know....bloody bed having to be 7 feet square does not help.....sort of a compromise really but still has a midband to ...ahhh...
Lee
Lee
Posted on: 10 April 2005 by Geoff P
Yes and the bass mid range units aswell! To be serious I know what you are asking and the answer is no, the sound is very well intergated and as usual with standmount speakers completely "out of the box" and not at all localised.quote:Geoff, At that distance don't you find you are listening to the tweeters?
Martin. Interesting and very well made. The wood finish on the cabinets is very nice and I would guess from their volume they do bass rather well.quote:As you can see from a different angel we placed the crossover in a separate box.I’ve called them Unique Onyx. The Drivers are custom made respectively very special Focal Chassis.
regards
GEOFF
Posted on: 10 April 2005 by Dexter
Hi Lee,
What type of clamp/weight are you using with that Xerxes? Are you still removing the spindle when you put it on?
I'm also a Xerxes owner and I understand that most folks don't use clamps or weights because they feel it defeats the design purpose of de-coupling the LP from the bearing via the removable spindle. What is your experience here?
Cheers, Dex
What type of clamp/weight are you using with that Xerxes? Are you still removing the spindle when you put it on?
I'm also a Xerxes owner and I understand that most folks don't use clamps or weights because they feel it defeats the design purpose of de-coupling the LP from the bearing via the removable spindle. What is your experience here?
Cheers, Dex
Posted on: 10 April 2005 by Alco
Ok, here are my latest systempics.
I decided to change the place of the system and speakers. (for the ...th time
)
You win some, you loose some.
My room has got TERRIBLE acoustics
Regarding the sound of my system in my room,
I regret buying this appartment 7 years ago.
My previous, small rental appartment was WAY MUCH better in this regard.
Whatever speaker I set up in my room, I get this horrible, fat, uncontrolled boomy bass.
So, in the way my speakers are placed now, the bass has gotten a little better.
(as long as I sit down! As soon as I stand op...it's back)
The whole soundstage has gotten wider and deeper because the speakers are further apart.
On the other hand instruments and voices have lost some body, and can sound a little thin at times.
I had to use some left over VDH Clearwater cable. It's the only cable I got left that's long enough. (2x5 meters)
Anyway, before I change my mind and put the whole thing back to were it was yesterday...
here are some pics:
That acoustic thing is getting me pretty desperate

Time to move

regards,
Alco
I decided to change the place of the system and speakers. (for the ...th time
You win some, you loose some.
My room has got TERRIBLE acoustics
Regarding the sound of my system in my room,
I regret buying this appartment 7 years ago.
My previous, small rental appartment was WAY MUCH better in this regard.
Whatever speaker I set up in my room, I get this horrible, fat, uncontrolled boomy bass.
So, in the way my speakers are placed now, the bass has gotten a little better.
(as long as I sit down! As soon as I stand op...it's back)
The whole soundstage has gotten wider and deeper because the speakers are further apart.
On the other hand instruments and voices have lost some body, and can sound a little thin at times.
I had to use some left over VDH Clearwater cable. It's the only cable I got left that's long enough. (2x5 meters)
Anyway, before I change my mind and put the whole thing back to were it was yesterday...
here are some pics:
That acoustic thing is getting me pretty desperate
Time to move
regards,
Alco