System Pics 2005

Posted by: Steve Toy on 05 November 2004

Further to Geoff P's marvellous pics on This thread, a new year and a new thread to post pics of your pride and joy (all-Naim or at least part-Naim) awaits so that we can all get nit-picky about placement issues - to your ultimate sonic benefit! Smile

Regards,

Steve.

[This message was edited by Adam Meredith on Thu 11 November 2004 at 20:32.]
Posted on: 17 April 2005 by kuma
quote:
did you gain no sonic advantage using a Wiremold strip?


dave,

Not in my rig in the past. Actully, it made the system sound *less jump*. It had a tendency to make a note rounded off which for some, might be a good thing.
( I haven't tried it with the 300 & Fraim, tho )

quote:
1) What order are the units on the right-hand rack (from top to bottom)?


That's the power supply stack.
552 PS
XPS2
Space
300 PS
( no. I haven't played Geoff P's 'Fraim Gaim' ) Razz

quote:
2) What speakers are you using?


They are made in the US Paramount Hamilton. And the company no longer exists. Frown They have been a work-horse along with my valve amps for last 5 years. They are good all-rounder and worked well in my room out of speakers I've auditioned, then. ( I've ditched a floorstander for them )

quote:
3) What improvements have you heard from the 300 over the 200?


I wanted to make do with the 200. You know how much I love that amplifier.
But its headroom is very limited. Altho, I do a lot of low-level listening, when I wanted to turn a wick up, it seems to trip over on frequency extremes. My speakers are on the avearge sensitivity with a relatively flat impedance curve, but in order to have a better control of the dirvers and the bass extension, they seem to need more power than the 200 could provide.

The second difference from the 200 to the 300 was that you gain more of naturalness making this amp a bit closer to my valve amps. Sort of similar move from the CDX2 to the CDS3.
I'm gonna get my head bashed in for saying this Big Grin , but the 300 is more of a *round-earthed* amplifier.

A 250.2 hints at doing that, but not very well. As I hear it, a 300 is the improved version of a 200. ( not the 250.2 )
The 300 keeps a better timing and does the *hi-fi* thing, too. I am not sure how this amp would fair amongst the Naim traditionalists, but it fits my criteria well.

The 300 comes from *nowhere* in the Naim product history. It just popped up after the intro of the 500. It's a sort of an odd-ball product. Whilst I still do not get the bass authority,dynamics and even better headroom of the 500 ( unfortunately, Naim holds off those traits till the top range ) , I thought that my 300 offered a pretty good VFM delivering not quite the 500 level performance, but maybe around 400. Winker
Posted on: 17 April 2005 by Webke
Kuma, your systems looks fantastic, I'd love to have a house that would enable me to place my speakers in such a way, (in the same way as J.N too!).

Speakers look great, very small but I bet they sound 10 times bigger than what they look!

Well in.
Posted on: 17 April 2005 by JonR
Thanks for your answers kuma, very interesting. I've heard a lot of good stuff about the 300 and whilst it may not have the ultimate bass extension of the 500 (or even a 400 is such a beast exists! Big Grin) it would be an amp I'd happily live with in my own system.

Your answer re the rack order is very instructive as I have plans to get my system on twin-racks in the near future but, like you, I am reluctant to play the Fraim Gaim!!

Cheers,

Jon Cool
Posted on: 17 April 2005 by Webke
My humble CD5 Nait5 on my home made "fraim", since pic was taken I have dropped the nait down a shelf and gained some noticable sonic benefits.[IMG] [/IMG]
Posted on: 17 April 2005 by mtuttleb
quote:
it would be an amp I'd happily live with in my own system


Jon

but what about the neighbours Winker

Kuma.

That looks like a nicely finished system that you have there, oh apart from an LP12 with a decent tonearm Big Grin
Posted on: 17 April 2005 by kuma
quote:
Originally posted by Webke:
your systems looks fantastic, I'd love to have a house that would enable me to place my speakers in such a way,


Thanks Webke.
The problem with the current arrangement is that many flat-earth speakers won't work ( exception being the 'Briks ). Winker
Picking speakers right for the room go a long way and these happened to work to my advantage without fussing over room acoustics nonsense!

The trade off is lack of real bass. Frown
Nothing beats the full range speakers coupled to the right room.

A nice rack you made!
Say, your shelves look too lonely. What are you planning to fill them with? Winker

JonR.

I am not plannign to play the Fraim Gaim in the future. I think I had enough of playing around with the rack to get to the level I am now reasonably happy with. ( this was my SO induced purchase Roll Eyes )

quote:
That looks like a nicely finished system that you have there, oh apart from an LP12 with a decent tonearm


Yes!
Next thing I have to do is to drill the holes on the floor and route the speaker cables and DIN/XLR lead to the valve amp via basement.

Now I've solved the 'valve situation'. The 300 would be perfect for the summer. i'll switch back to my regular amps for winter.

And yes. I am still a look out for a better arm for my Baby Linn. Smile
Posted on: 18 April 2005 by glevethan
quote:
Originally posted by kuma:
And yes. I am still a look out for a better arm for my Baby Linn. Smile


It really does make a big difference.

Gregg

PS I don't want to start another Aro/Ekos debate after what I have been through!
Posted on: 18 April 2005 by glevethan
This is another thread which might have some longevity!
Posted on: 18 April 2005 by JonR
quote:
Originally posted by mtuttleb:
quote:
it would be an amp I'd happily live with in my own system


Jon

but what about the neighbours Winker


Mark,

Don't worry. My financial situation is such that by the time I can afford a 300 I will have probably long since moved somewhere else! Big Grin

Cheers,

Jon
Posted on: 18 April 2005 by Webke
quote:
Originally posted by kuma:
A nice rack you made!
Say, your shelves look too lonely. What are you planning to fill them with? Winker


Thank you, yes the rack is certainly ready for a few more boxes, next stop for me is CDX2, then 282, then a 200, I am currently a student though, so its very difficult to buy much naim for the time being! - I do graduate in a few months though.
Posted on: 18 April 2005 by Steve G
Here's what my slightly eclectic setup looks like:

Posted on: 18 April 2005 by domfjbrown
Thanks for the info re your rack, Mus Smile

Here's a PEE POOR image (I NEED a better digicam than that el cheapo-for Glastonbury Fuji thingy):



Note the Ford Capri model

THE flat earth of telephones Smile
...the only phone we can hear over the hifi:



The av stuff (in my bedroom):

Posted on: 18 April 2005 by kuma
quote:
Originally posted by domfjbrown:
The av stuff (in my bedroom):


domfjbrown,

I've spotted Kenny.
Here's mine.Big Grin
Posted on: 19 April 2005 by domfjbrown
Yeah - Kenny rules! Just don't look TOO close (there's some Teletubbies there, AND fluffly dice on BOTH systems!).

There's also an Action Man (eagle eyes) and a slightly maimed Cindy (done out as Lara Croft, courtesy of extra Action Man clothes) hidden from view on the left in the AV shot - both dolls came out of my sister's house when spring cleaning (she's a teacher). He he he...
Posted on: 19 April 2005 by Sergej
Hello kuma,

what's that for a "Ninotchka" on the poster? Eek
Posted on: 19 April 2005 by kuma
quote:
Just don't look TOO close (there's some Teletubbies there, AND fluffly dice on BOTH systems!).


yes. I saw the Teletubbies. ( didn't wanna say anything. Razz)

Love that red telephone, tho.


Sergei,

It's Lubitsch's Ninotchka Smile

The best film Garbo ever made. ( it's a Lobby card from old film I collect )
Posted on: 19 April 2005 by domfjbrown
quote:
Originally posted by kuma:
Love that red telephone, tho.


Yep, an Ebay purchase last summer - a 1970s BT 741 jobby in (obviously!) lacquer red, cost about £29 including postage, and was fully reconditioned.

I also have a 1970s Kundo anniversary clock and a 70s pouffe (inherited from a neighbour when he died, who, incidentally, also left us his 1972 Ford Capri 1600XL, hence why I got into them and built a Lego model (mk3, as I didn't have enough grey bricks for the "chrome" of a mk1 Smile).

It's good that the Naim stuff looks 70s-esque, as it fits in Smile
Posted on: 19 April 2005 by Sergej
quote:
It's Lubitsch's Ninotchka


I see, I see Smile
Posted on: 20 April 2005 by billyj
ok,
It keeps on telling me that the file is to large.
What do I need to do?
Help Please.
Billy J
Posted on: 20 April 2005 by sjust
If you want to use the "Add Attachment" (like the one attached, here...) feature, make sure it's "small" by either changing size of the picture or the compression factor. In any case use JPG as the format.

Pics of an arbitrary size can be "linked" to - using "display image" feature. You'd have to put it on a Web Server reachable by everybody, and just point there.

cheers
Stefan
Posted on: 20 April 2005 by BigH47
domfjbrown sorry but a pedant point the phone is a 706, a 741 was the wall mount version.Those bells were loud. Does it dial ok? I thought the 10 PPS support was being phased out, may be 21CN(21st Century Network) it will be.

Regards

Howard Big Grin

746 is the updated table top version of the 706.
Posted on: 20 April 2005 by kuma
quote:
It's good that the Naim stuff looks 70s-esque, as it fits in Smile



Yep.

I love their Chrome Bumper casing, too. Smile
Very retro.
Posted on: 21 April 2005 by Damien
Here is my small but great setup. Nait 2, CD3.5 with Hicap. And i think it sounds great!
Damien
Posted on: 21 April 2005 by Alco
Looks good, Damien Smile

I'm also using a Nait-2.
(olive-green model though)

What speakers are you using ?
Could you place a picture of the whole system ?

regards,
Alco
Posted on: 21 April 2005 by Damien
Alco,

Thanks!

I am using Aegis AE1 speakers at the moment but would like to get some Linn Kann, mind you i have bought all of the Naim stuff this year so need to slow down on the spending. The TT is only cheap but then again i do not have much vinyl and the tape deck does not get used much.

Damien
PS: why when i look at these thread are some of the picture not there and you get a red sign, like on my last post?