System Pics 2005

Posted by: Steve Toy on 05 November 2004

Further to Geoff P's marvellous pics on This thread, a new year and a new thread to post pics of your pride and joy (all-Naim or at least part-Naim) awaits so that we can all get nit-picky about placement issues - to your ultimate sonic benefit! Smile

Regards,

Steve.

[This message was edited by Adam Meredith on Thu 11 November 2004 at 20:32.]
Posted on: 27 September 2005 by RiNo
Thanks Pratmaster
How much are those, they look really competent Smile

///RiNo

P.S Ooops, I'm a bit slow, erious case of digitalitis D.Ss
Posted on: 27 September 2005 by Polarbear
The ones Pratmaster have are £9k, they do a cheaper £5k version and a special £20k version which is made to order.

They don't just look competent they sound amazing.
Posted on: 27 September 2005 by RiNo
What's the difference?
I'm quite sure they sound fantastic, especially with such esoteric equipment as yours

thanks
Rickard
Posted on: 27 September 2005 by Polarbear
quote:
Originally posted by RiNo:
What's the difference?
I'm quite sure they sound fantastic, especially with such esoteric equipment as yours

thanks
Rickard


The difference is in the crosovers. The £5k unit uses cheaper components. The £20k units use the silver Kondo units hence the extra cost.

On the end of a Naim system they are sublime. One of the most perfectly balanced speakres I have heard.

Regards

PB
Posted on: 27 September 2005 by RiNo
Thanks PB
Art isn't represented here up north, oops except at the north pole Big Grin

What do you think about the less costly V6 and V8 models, care to enlighten me?

It would be great fun to experience a system like yours, but not when you're on an empty stomach...

thanks in advance
Rickard
Posted on: 27 September 2005 by Polarbear
I will be totally honest and say I haven't heard them. I am sure Pratmaster has and he can help you more than I can.

I know Emotions have been sold in USA and Japan so Sweden shouldn't be a problem.

Why not contact Derek at ART and ask for his help.

Regards

PB
Posted on: 27 September 2005 by RiNo
Thanks PB for your honest answer
I've just bought new speakers, but sometimes money just pop up from unexpected sources and when it happens it's good to be prepared, but looking at my profile, it's best used on a CDP Eek Winker or better amplification

Rickard
Posted on: 27 September 2005 by Polarbear
Rickard,

Always source first!

Look at the CDP, depending on your budget a nice CDX2 perhaps?

Regards

PB
Posted on: 27 September 2005 by pratmaster
RIno the V6 model is very good, nice fast and detailed, not sure if they are still doing the V8, better give them a call, I find it hard to describe, but the thing with ART, is flat full range and very neutral, they major on dynamics, and have midrange to die for, remember these are the sons of the Dunlop of system dek fame, so they are not new to audio, and ARt have been around since the nineties.

They also have the cheaper stiletto models, the £1k tiny floorstanding stiletto is a revalation with it's tiny 4" driver, and horn loaded tweeter, Give them a call they may be able to help.

As for running on esoteric kit, I have heard these with a kit 300B valve amp with an old Nak cd4 and they were still stunning,so esoterica, need not apply, as for a 300, well strap yourself in it's one helluva ride, my amp is 150w/ch into 8 ohms, and doubles as impedence halves, I can feel the beat through the brick work outside Big Grin (is that enough of a workout PB Winker )
Posted on: 27 September 2005 by Polarbear
Thanks PM Smile
Posted on: 27 September 2005 by pratmaster
quote:
Originally posted by hungryhalibut:
My room is not large and I need wallhuggers.
Nigel


I have the back of these big speakers 8" from the wall, the bottom port, and baffle width seem to not need fussy placement, they are happy anywhere. And the scale at lowest volume is a revelation.
Posted on: 27 September 2005 by RiNo
quote:
Rickard,

Always source first!

Look at the CDP, depending on your budget a nice CDX2 perhaps?

Regards

PB


Yes indeed, that was my reasoning before buying my SME Model 20/2A Big Grin


quote:
I can feel the beat through the brick work outside


I guess you hear it to Winker

Keep up the good work on this forum!

Rickard
Posted on: 27 September 2005 by pratmaster
quote:
Originally posted by Nuno Baptista:
quote:
Originally posted by pratmaster:
ART Emotions, the ones polarbear was going on about.

What are your amplifiers and source?


Never saw your post earlier,
sources

Bow Technologies, Wizard2 CDP, Warlock pre and walrus Power, other sources are Pure 701 Dab radio and an old Thorens 166.

wires are mainly JPSLabs spkr cable balnced I/c and mains wire. Rack is schroers
Posted on: 27 September 2005 by kuma
Cool PM.

Bow eh?

Too bad they are not distributed in the US any longer.

How do they fair compared to the Densen?
Posted on: 28 September 2005 by pratmaster
Bow marketing is a joke, Kuma, I'm not sure they are marketed anywhere anymore.

compared to Densen, hard to say, been a long time since I heard densen, sound is lush, detailed, fast and funky, plenty of macro and microdynamics, and nice well defined soundstage, I'm crap at describng what i hear though.
Posted on: 28 September 2005 by RiNo
Look at this site KUMA
http://www.bowtechnologies.com/index1.html

Regards Rickard
Posted on: 28 September 2005 by RiNo
Or check this out

quote:
US enquiries should be directed to:


BOW Technologies Canada, Inc.
P.O.Box 82046
Lachenaie, Quebec
Canada J6X 4B2

Telephone: 450-492-8728
Cell: 514-247-9007
Fax: 514-247-1404
E-mail: bowcanada@sympatico.ca


Rickard
Posted on: 28 September 2005 by pratmaster
Some of these may be out of date Rickard, they still have some of the English retailers listed, but AKAIK there is now only one outlet in the whole of the UK, and thats in Glasgow.
Posted on: 28 September 2005 by kuma
Thanks PM & Rickard.

I've listened to them years ago with large Harbeth Monitor 40.
Certainly they looked the part.
Posted on: 28 September 2005 by pratmaster
quote:
Originally posted by kuma:
Certainly they looked the part.


Roll Eyes
Posted on: 28 September 2005 by RiNo
quote:
Thanks PM & Rickard.


You're welcome

Rickard
Posted on: 28 September 2005 by Polarbear
Kuma,

you need to check out ART's Winker
Posted on: 28 September 2005 by kuma
quote:
Originally posted by Polarbear:
Kuma,

you need to check out ART's Winker


Me thinks that ART and Art Audio SET amps would work rather well. Winker
Posted on: 28 September 2005 by pratmaster
Kuma they are designed for Kondo, so I reckon the ART diavlo or similar, would work very well, as does an audio note valve amp kit 300b s/e
Posted on: 28 September 2005 by kuma
quote:
Originally posted by pratmaster:
Kuma they are designed for Kondo, so I reckon the ART diavlo or similar, would work very well, as does an audio note valve amp kit 300b s/e


Yep. ( but AA Jota is better than Diavolo Winker)

I suspect valve amps would work better than a Naim amp.
Kondo amps are pretty darn special, too.

My experience is that if a speakers is designed with particular types of amp in mind, you're better off using the very amp rather than retro fitting something else.

My normal speakers are voiced with Jotas and whilst the 300 does good job driving, ultimately, I've heard the amp delivering more with something more suited than my Hamiltons.

Interesting thing is that it's independent from technical requirements as the Hamiltons are easy to drive yet something is not quite working right when I use the 300 with them.