System Pics 2005
Posted by: Steve Toy on 05 November 2004
Further to Geoff P's marvellous pics on This thread, a new year and a new thread to post pics of your pride and joy (all-Naim or at least part-Naim) awaits so that we can all get nit-picky about placement issues - to your ultimate sonic benefit! 
Regards,
Steve.
[This message was edited by Adam Meredith on Thu 11 November 2004 at 20:32.]
Regards,
Steve.
[This message was edited by Adam Meredith on Thu 11 November 2004 at 20:32.]
Posted on: 21 November 2005 by Mabelode, King of Swords
Jag
Could you do a few closeups of the MF, and tell us more about it?
Steve
Could you do a few closeups of the MF, and tell us more about it?
Steve
Posted on: 22 November 2005 by Philip Pang
quote:Originally posted by Jagdeep:
Heheh.
No worries Philip old chap... the 282/250 is on the way.. should be snuggled in my rack before the end of the year. The Onix is filling in for Naim's duties at the moment.
Jag
You meant 282/250.2?
Cool.
Ring me when able; we'll catch up. 9838 0070
Enjoy!
Cheers
Phil
Posted on: 22 November 2005 by Jagdeep
Hi Haim,
I'll get some pics for you. i'm of to Jakarta for the next 3 days for some work. And yes, it weighs in at a featherweight 31kg
My Aida is about 45kg.
http://www.tnt-audio.com/sorgenti/aida_e.html
have a look please
Hey Phil, yup, 250.2 would love to have you over, and remember Haim, anytime you're around, we'll make room for you.
Jag
I'll get some pics for you. i'm of to Jakarta for the next 3 days for some work. And yes, it weighs in at a featherweight 31kg
My Aida is about 45kg.
http://www.tnt-audio.com/sorgenti/aida_e.html
have a look please
Hey Phil, yup, 250.2 would love to have you over, and remember Haim, anytime you're around, we'll make room for you.
Jag
Posted on: 26 November 2005 by yeti.fro
Finally some pics from me :-)
Basicly a system 2 with some additions. The WB Arcs are currently in for a home demo and I´m quite impressed. However, no final decision made yet.
brgds...TC
Basicly a system 2 with some additions. The WB Arcs are currently in for a home demo and I´m quite impressed. However, no final decision made yet.
brgds...TC
Posted on: 26 November 2005 by yeti.fro
Electronis in more detail. Camtech tuner and Naim gear fit together quite well :-)
Posted on: 26 November 2005 by Lefty
Nice! 
Lefty
Lefty
Posted on: 26 November 2005 by JamieWednesday
Woo-hoo, another T+A!
Posted on: 26 November 2005 by sjust
TC,
never saw the green hood with the T&A... Very niceliy presented, the whole system. Have (more) fun with the WB Arcs !
cheers
Stefan
never saw the green hood with the T&A... Very niceliy presented, the whole system. Have (more) fun with the WB Arcs !
cheers
Stefan
Posted on: 26 November 2005 by yeti.fro
Thx Stefan,
there is no green hood for the T&A. It´s just the plastic cover for the hood, which I didn´t remove. Simply love the green too much :-)
The Arcs are are not fully broken in yet and are getting better minute by minute, If you can´t solve the probs with your Summit (Hope not!), you should audition some WBs. The sound is very clear and a bit similar to MLs, but they are easier to drive.
brgds...TC
there is no green hood for the T&A. It´s just the plastic cover for the hood, which I didn´t remove. Simply love the green too much :-)
The Arcs are are not fully broken in yet and are getting better minute by minute, If you can´t solve the probs with your Summit (Hope not!), you should audition some WBs. The sound is very clear and a bit similar to MLs, but they are easier to drive.
brgds...TC
Posted on: 26 November 2005 by Huwge
TC - what speaker cable are you using with the Arcs? Also, are those the stands that come with the WBs or another make?
Thanks
Huw (trying to tweak his Special 25s)
Thanks
Huw (trying to tweak his Special 25s)
Posted on: 27 November 2005 by yeti.fro
Hi Huw,
I´m currently using a HMS Grand Finale for various reasons:
1. Need to have at least some German devices between all those Brits :-)
2. It´s very neutral and can be adjusted to fit most speakers, great for demos.
3. It´s part of my big-American-HiFi-history, so it´s simply available.
4. It´s a bi-wiring version, which can have hugh benefits.
5. I have also a NACA5, which has very good VFM. But compared to the HMS and other expensive cables, it´s quite limiting (no need to flame this, just my opinion) especially in terms of resolution. And this is one of the strength of the Arcs...
brgds...TC
I´m currently using a HMS Grand Finale for various reasons:
1. Need to have at least some German devices between all those Brits :-)
2. It´s very neutral and can be adjusted to fit most speakers, great for demos.
3. It´s part of my big-American-HiFi-history, so it´s simply available.
4. It´s a bi-wiring version, which can have hugh benefits.
5. I have also a NACA5, which has very good VFM. But compared to the HMS and other expensive cables, it´s quite limiting (no need to flame this, just my opinion) especially in terms of resolution. And this is one of the strength of the Arcs...
brgds...TC
Posted on: 28 November 2005 by Anders
Here is a picture of my music room with the NBLs and some of the acustic treatment that I have applied.
The products are delivered from a company in Sweden called Svana Akustik Miljo.
I currently use their "Creation Panels" (AD20 = 40mm depth and AD40=90mm depth) as well as their "Golden Horn" diffusor. The Creation Panels are made of oak foiled and profiled MDF and have a very nice studio design. The Golden Horn (the two white segments between the speakers) are made of some plastic material covered with transparent cloth.
The Creation Panel works as diffusor while the Golden Horn is a combination of absorbtion/diffusion. I use four sets of the Golden Horns at side walls as well to tame the first and second reflection. The combined effect of the panels and the Golden Horn is really fantastic in my room (width = 3.1m, length 7.3m, height 2.5m)which is rather difficult from an acoustic perspective. A key effect is the improvement on the sound field that become much wider/deeper than without the treatment. In addition, the presentation of the music/performance becomes much more clear (less congested/cluttered). Without the treatment the room was a nightmare.
Here is some explanation of the Creation Panel from the manufacturer:
"The architectural image and the acoustic versatility of the AD panels make them fulfill the high requirements of studios, THX certified cinemas, 5.1 film mixing rooms, concert halls, home movie auditoriums etc. In cases where bass absorption is preferred the AD panels are fastened to beams with a slit between them. In combination and due to the depth of the slit and the volume of air behind the panels optional frequencies may be absorbed. The combination of half cylinders and the mid section sequence of primitive roots, result in spreading of the sound in time and simultaneously minimising disturbing reflexes. Since the mid section is not periodical the spreading will be optimised if the AD40 is assembled randomly."
Anders
Posted on: 28 November 2005 by Anders
Here is a closer look at the AD40 Creation Panel:
Posted on: 28 November 2005 by Anders
And the Golden Horn:
Posted on: 28 November 2005 by daddycool
Am I the only Mac user who doesn't see most of the pictures posted here? I just see a big red circle where the pic should be. 
At work, on that dreadful PC, I see them all, bummer. Any suggestions from fellow Mac users?
PS: This occurs both with Safari and Firefox
At work, on that dreadful PC, I see them all, bummer. Any suggestions from fellow Mac users?
PS: This occurs both with Safari and Firefox
Posted on: 28 November 2005 by mjamrob
quote:Am I the only Mac user who doesn't see most of the pictures posted here? I just see a big red circle where the pic should be.
I use a pc and I can't see them either
Posted on: 28 November 2005 by mjamrob
It must be magic - after posting I can now see clearly 
Posted on: 28 November 2005 by Nuno Baptista
Nice pictures!
Posted on: 28 November 2005 by Nuno Baptista
quote:Originally posted by daddycool:
Am I the only Mac user who doesn't see most of the pictures posted here?
I use a PC and I can´t see either!
BTW,which is more popular in UK:PC´s or Mac´s?What is the market share of Mac´s?
Posted on: 28 November 2005 by imperialline
quote:Originally posted by Nuno Baptista:quote:Originally posted by daddycool:
Am I the only Mac user who doesn't see most of the pictures posted here?
I use a PC and I can´t see either!
BTW,which is more popular in UK:PC´s or Mac´s?What is the market share of Mac´s?
The reason that you see the big red circles because you do not log in when you view the page.
Posted on: 28 November 2005 by pratmaster
Per anders do you have details on the AD40 panels please
Posted on: 28 November 2005 by Anders
Pratmaster,
Some more details:
Creation Panels
"In the development of Creation panels as great importance has been attached to the musical experience as to the architectonic appearance. Early on it was evident that the influence of the room , due to the lower frequencies, coloured and deteriorated the experience of the different models of diffusers.
With aid from the Helmholtz principle, bass absorption between the different Creation Panels and in the different MA modules has been introduced. The idea came about to build the diffusers with well balanced diffuser panels.
Thus the narrow deep compartments (which were absorbing in the field there it was supposed to be diffusing) were abandoned and replaced with 200-300 mm wide Creation Panels with a mathematically balanced depth. The lower limits for diffusion is determined by among other things the depth of the panel and with the aid of 16mm thick partitions the panels could be placed with different depth and thus diffuse down to a preferred frequency. This can be compared to a frequency filter in a loudspeaker dividing the frequency at 1000 Hz
Due to variations of the closed volumes behind each Creation Panel it was logical to, by means of slits in the sides, create Helmholtz resonators to absorb the lower frequencies broad banded and with a high absorption coefficient.
This way the MA-modules (Modulated Arrays) came about, with which it is possible to diffuse large areas without loosing the efficiency and at the same time master the standing waves of the room. This quality has lately proved to be very valuable since the THX classified 5.1 mixing rooms have become more common. The proof of the exceptional absorption and diffusion of the MA modules in combination with the Creation Panels when in the hands of experienced acousticians is documented under Technical Specifications.
In time for the 10th anniversary more than 50 000 m2 has been delivered and the comments from world famous musicians, film and music producers, piano tuners, sopranos and technicians etc has been overwhelming.
The University College of Opera (Operahögskolan) in Stockholm, Sweden, nominated “Reconstruction of the year” in 2003, partly because of perfect acoustics, constitutes the largest order of Creation Panels to date (approx. 2000 m).
The versatility of the different Creation Panels is also mirrored by effective mobile acoustic walls, solid or bendable that can be mounted and moved. Depending on selected panels, song-booths, drum-booths, frequency curve optimised diffuser walls (concave or convex), exhibition walls etc quickly be assembled and moved.
Just in time for the 10th anniversary SMT is launching a new half- and ¼ round Creation Panel in two diameters, TP200 and TP300. Hereby the perfect form for diffusion, the half circle, and the advantage of compartments with different depth, are combined. Architecturally an exciting pillar is created that also has the ability to spread the incoming sound wave in time.
TP200/300 in combination with the different MA-modules lead up to the CMA (Curved Modulated Array). With these building stones it is possible to build on site the worlds most effective and spectacular diffusers. The radius can be chosen from 300-800 mm and build whole, half or quarter diffuser models, all with the ability to absorb the lower frequencies broad banded.
In cases where variable acoustic is preferred the broad band absorbent Abcyll is connected to TP200/300 and the different CMA modules to rotating Ambient Control modules (AC modules) AC 200/300 can also be placed in the different compartment of the MA modules.
The unique position of SMT on the world market is reflected in the fact that most Creation panels and MA modules can be delivered in 2D version."
Finish: MDF covered with foil of choice (my are oak)
Dimensions: Width 200mm, depth 90mm, maximum lenght 2400mm
For more information see:
http://www.diffusor.com
Regards
Anders
Some more details:
Creation Panels
"In the development of Creation panels as great importance has been attached to the musical experience as to the architectonic appearance. Early on it was evident that the influence of the room , due to the lower frequencies, coloured and deteriorated the experience of the different models of diffusers.
With aid from the Helmholtz principle, bass absorption between the different Creation Panels and in the different MA modules has been introduced. The idea came about to build the diffusers with well balanced diffuser panels.
Thus the narrow deep compartments (which were absorbing in the field there it was supposed to be diffusing) were abandoned and replaced with 200-300 mm wide Creation Panels with a mathematically balanced depth. The lower limits for diffusion is determined by among other things the depth of the panel and with the aid of 16mm thick partitions the panels could be placed with different depth and thus diffuse down to a preferred frequency. This can be compared to a frequency filter in a loudspeaker dividing the frequency at 1000 Hz
Due to variations of the closed volumes behind each Creation Panel it was logical to, by means of slits in the sides, create Helmholtz resonators to absorb the lower frequencies broad banded and with a high absorption coefficient.
This way the MA-modules (Modulated Arrays) came about, with which it is possible to diffuse large areas without loosing the efficiency and at the same time master the standing waves of the room. This quality has lately proved to be very valuable since the THX classified 5.1 mixing rooms have become more common. The proof of the exceptional absorption and diffusion of the MA modules in combination with the Creation Panels when in the hands of experienced acousticians is documented under Technical Specifications.
In time for the 10th anniversary more than 50 000 m2 has been delivered and the comments from world famous musicians, film and music producers, piano tuners, sopranos and technicians etc has been overwhelming.
The University College of Opera (Operahögskolan) in Stockholm, Sweden, nominated “Reconstruction of the year” in 2003, partly because of perfect acoustics, constitutes the largest order of Creation Panels to date (approx. 2000 m).
The versatility of the different Creation Panels is also mirrored by effective mobile acoustic walls, solid or bendable that can be mounted and moved. Depending on selected panels, song-booths, drum-booths, frequency curve optimised diffuser walls (concave or convex), exhibition walls etc quickly be assembled and moved.
Just in time for the 10th anniversary SMT is launching a new half- and ¼ round Creation Panel in two diameters, TP200 and TP300. Hereby the perfect form for diffusion, the half circle, and the advantage of compartments with different depth, are combined. Architecturally an exciting pillar is created that also has the ability to spread the incoming sound wave in time.
TP200/300 in combination with the different MA-modules lead up to the CMA (Curved Modulated Array). With these building stones it is possible to build on site the worlds most effective and spectacular diffusers. The radius can be chosen from 300-800 mm and build whole, half or quarter diffuser models, all with the ability to absorb the lower frequencies broad banded.
In cases where variable acoustic is preferred the broad band absorbent Abcyll is connected to TP200/300 and the different CMA modules to rotating Ambient Control modules (AC modules) AC 200/300 can also be placed in the different compartment of the MA modules.
The unique position of SMT on the world market is reflected in the fact that most Creation panels and MA modules can be delivered in 2D version."
Finish: MDF covered with foil of choice (my are oak)
Dimensions: Width 200mm, depth 90mm, maximum lenght 2400mm
For more information see:
http://www.diffusor.com
Regards
Anders
Posted on: 28 November 2005 by pratmaster
thanks for that
Posted on: 28 November 2005 by Shayman
Post 1
- Nuno
Post 2
- Nuno

quote:Nice pictures!
- Nuno
Post 2
quote:I use a PC and I can´t see either!
- Nuno
Posted on: 28 November 2005 by Jagdeep
Philip, Haim ... the big MF
Looks better in person and would have had better pics if it was out of the box but just too heavy ... Hope you like
Jag
Looks better in person and would have had better pics if it was out of the box but just too heavy ... Hope you like
Jag