System Pics 2005
Posted by: Steve Toy on 05 November 2004
Further to Geoff P's marvellous pics on This thread, a new year and a new thread to post pics of your pride and joy (all-Naim or at least part-Naim) awaits so that we can all get nit-picky about placement issues - to your ultimate sonic benefit! 
Regards,
Steve.
[This message was edited by Adam Meredith on Thu 11 November 2004 at 20:32.]
Regards,
Steve.
[This message was edited by Adam Meredith on Thu 11 November 2004 at 20:32.]
quote:Originally posted by Anders:Hi,
Here is a picture of my music room with the NBLs and some of the acustic treatment that I have applied.
The products are delivered from a company in Sweden called Svana Akustik Miljo.
I currently use their "Creation Panels" (AD20 = 40mm depth and AD40=90mm depth) as well as their "Golden Horn" diffusor. The Creation Panels are made of oak foiled and profiled MDF and have a very nice studio design. The Golden Horn (the two white segments between the speakers) are made of some plastic material covered with transparent cloth.
The Creation Panel works as diffusor while the Golden Horn is a combination of absorbtion/diffusion. I use four sets of the Golden Horns at side walls as well to tame the first and second reflection. The combined effect of the panels and the Golden Horn is really fantastic in my room (width = 3.1m, length 7.3m, height 2.5m)which is rather difficult from an acoustic perspective. A key effect is the improvement on the sound field that become much wider/deeper than without the treatment. In addition, the presentation of the music/performance becomes much more clear (less congested/cluttered). Without the treatment the room was a nightmare.
Here is some explanation of the Creation Panel from the manufacturer:
"The architectural image and the acoustic versatility of the AD panels make them fulfill the high requirements of studios, THX certified cinemas, 5.1 film mixing rooms, concert halls, home movie auditoriums etc. In cases where bass absorption is preferred the AD panels are fastened to beams with a slit between them. In combination and due to the depth of the slit and the volume of air behind the panels optional frequencies may be absorbed. The combination of half cylinders and the mid section sequence of primitive roots, result in spreading of the sound in time and simultaneously minimising disturbing reflexes. Since the mid section is not periodical the spreading will be optimised if the AD40 is assembled randomly."
Anders
Anders,
The problem with scatterers is that they create a large variation of path length (particularly for high frequencies) that smears the timing.
Andrew
Andrew,
Interesting comment.
Before I used the panels/absorbers, the sound/music was all over the place and it was really difficult to follow a tune. After the installation the music seem to flow in perfect order with all the PRaT you could ask for.
A (
lucky?) case of when theory and practice yield different results?
The total investment is also relatively modest relative an equipment upgrade (in the order of a Hicap cost).
Regards
Anders
Interesting comment.
Before I used the panels/absorbers, the sound/music was all over the place and it was really difficult to follow a tune. After the installation the music seem to flow in perfect order with all the PRaT you could ask for.
A (
lucky?) case of when theory and practice yield different results?The total investment is also relatively modest relative an equipment upgrade (in the order of a Hicap cost).
Regards
Anders
quote:Originally posted by Anders:
Andrew,
Interesting comment.
Before I used the panels/absorbers, the sound/music was all over the place and it was really difficult to follow a tune. After the installation the music seem to flow in perfect order with all the PRaT you could ask for.
A (
The total investment is also relatively modest relative an equipment upgrade (in the order of a Hicap cost).
Regards
Anders
Seems that in your case, having a scatterer is the lesser of two evils if room resonance is occuring.
Andrew
UPDATED hifi:
http://forum.audiogon.com/cgi-bin/fr.pl?vdone&1127246906&view
added a Turntable and a Phonostage and made my own IC's (short 25cm signal path to phono, and longer 75cm IC to PrimaLuna):
http://forum.audiogon.com/cgi-bin/fr.pl?vdone&1127246906&view
added a Turntable and a Phonostage and made my own IC's (short 25cm signal path to phono, and longer 75cm IC to PrimaLuna):
Taken from the 'light or heavy supports for Naim' thread.
Considering the "rules of proper setup" on dedicated (preferably light but rigid) stands, it shouldn't sound this good, but my humble system has never sounded any better than it does now...
Considering the "rules of proper setup" on dedicated (preferably light but rigid) stands, it shouldn't sound this good, but my humble system has never sounded any better than it does now...
Here is the latest version of mine with the new arrival installed.
Geoff
Geoff
quote:The cartridge is a Koetsu Black which has a slightly rich balance but great bass resolution and plays my mainstream jazz collection beautifully.
I can vouch for that
Geoff, that's a great system you have there. With the 300, it would have been quite happily my desert island system....a real pleasure to have had the chance to play some music on it.
Regards
Mark
Great pictures Geoff! your system is absolutely stunning!
Too bad we don't get the sound on the forum
Congratulations!
Best Regards
Edouard
Too bad we don't get the sound on the forum
Congratulations!
Best Regards
Edouard
Geoff,
It goes without saying - but I'll say it anyway - fantastic pics, you certainly have one of the best looking systems I've seen on this forum! I look forward to (hopefully sooner rather than later) seeing it (and indeed hearing it) first hand
Cheers,
Jon
It goes without saying - but I'll say it anyway
- fantastic pics, you certainly have one of the best looking systems I've seen on this forum! I look forward to (hopefully sooner rather than later) seeing it (and indeed hearing it) first hand Cheers,
Jon
Alco,
Your system looks lovely in its simplicity....but I see you've er..truncated your Corras!
Cheers,
Jon
Your system looks lovely in its simplicity....but I see you've er..truncated your Corras!
Cheers,
Jon
quote:Alco -
I love your rig. Simple and right to the point. Bravo my friend.
john
Thanx for the kind words, John & Geoff!
I also like clean and simple systems.
quote:Alco
Seconded.
BTW how's the battle with bass going?
Well, believe it or not, but since my Naim gear is placed in/on the oak-"rack" I'm suffering much less from that annoying bass-overhang.
I can now play tracks from CD's that were almost unlistenable before.
Still,...I'm not completely satisfied with the sound as a whole.
Sometimes I wish I had a bigger soundstage with slightly more depth, and voices that have more body, and bass that goes a bit deeper.
It's kind of a small system with a small sound.
The transparency and detail of the Rogers is quite superb though.
we'll see what the near future brings
quote:Originally posted by Alco:
Still,...I'm not completely satisfied with the sound as a whole.
Sometimes I wish I had a bigger soundstage with slightly more depth, and voices that have more body, and bass that goes a bit deeper
So you'll be kissing goodbye to the simple system and adding a whole load of Olive or Black boxes then?
quote:So you'll be kissing goodbye to the simple system and adding a whole load of Olive or Black boxes then?
Haha, no way Rackkit.
Because I have a small room, with a small (low-powered) amp, I'm kinda forced to use small speakers too.
I think adding a load of olive/black boxes doesn't change anything to that...
