Are there any buddhists here?

Posted by: Dev B on 14 May 2004

I have been interested in Buddhism for over ten years but apart from being an all round nice bloke haven't done too much about it. Now is the time. Can anyone enlighten me?
Posted on: 14 May 2004 by Fisbey
The London Buddhist Vihara is in Chiswick (very near Turnham Green tube), they run 10 week (evening) beginners courses and an advanced 10 week course too, as well as weekly meditation classes.
I attended the beginners course last year and it was very intersting, but a couple of domestic issues prevented me doing the advanced course. I hope, one day to get back to the meditation class (I only went once!), as I feel it is a good thing.
There's a nice bloke at Chiswick called Richard, who helps out, but the courses are mainly run by the monks.
Hope that helps.
Posted on: 14 May 2004 by Fisbey
Forgot to mention there is a library there also, which is very good and books are reasonably priced too!

The library is run on trust IE they trust you to pay for the books, which is very refreshing!
Posted on: 14 May 2004 by bigmick
You could do a lot worse than Richard Causton's Buddha in Daily Life, An Introduction to the Buddhism of Nichiren Daishonin or his book simply called Nicheren Shoshu Buddhism. Very easy and enjoyable reads.

Useful links http://www.sgi-uk.org/m1/links/l1.html
Posted on: 14 May 2004 by jayd
Been at this for a number of years now. Two chapters in "The Way of Zen" by Alan Watts have been more helpful to me than probably everything else I've read: "Empty and Marvelous", and "Sitting Quietly, Doing Nothing" (Chs. 1 and 2, respectively, of Part II of the book). Despite the title, it's more broadly applicable than just Zen.

Apart from that, research which type of meditation seems to be the most appealing or the best fit for you personally (a Google search will bring loads of info on the basic types).

Then, just do it. Practice. Experiment. If you're like me, much of what you read will only make sense in stages - little breakthroughs in meditation come, then a bit more of what's written becomes clear.

I also recommend finding a center nearby, and getting to know other Buddhists. Tremendous resource, great community.

j
Posted on: 14 May 2004 by Dev B
Thank you all, I am really interested in your journey's & I will keep you posted on mine.
Posted on: 14 May 2004 by Alex S.
Dev, some of my nicest friends are Buddhists. My Austrian cousins are very Buddhist and very nice. One of them explained Feng Shui at inordinate length and told us where to position the girls bunk so that they slept better and became very nice. It didn't work but nor did we laugh or think him a charlatan - only a Buddhist could pull off that trick whilst talking Feng Shui!

The only problem I can see if you become a Buddhist is that you may become too nice since you're very nice already.
Posted on: 14 May 2004 by jayd
Hi Tom. I don't pretend to speak from anything other than my own limited understanding, but my take is that the goal is realization attained by entering and then transcending a higher state of consciousness, and meditation is the fundamental mechanism for bringing this realization about. It's much, much more than a rite or an exercise - it is central to the practice.

The Noble Eightfold Path is the course of action one takes to achieve this. My experience is that only through meditation can I come anywhere close to the state of mind necessary to gain insight into these goals.

Volumes have been written on this subject; this is just my own little viewpoint.

j
Posted on: 15 May 2004 by 7V
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Originally posted by Tom Alves:
I'm slightly confused. Isn't the purpose here to follow a spiritual philosophy which brings you closer to the nature of God (call it what you will) rather than relying on a set on repeated physical practices. Meditation and mantra, the practice of yoga, taking communion, confession etc are surely merely a physical means to open the mind to greater awareness but true enlightenment is gained through the study of your religion and by your actions based on what you learn. Surely that is of more import than just learning to meditate (good though that is)?

Hello Tom. I was just passing through and thought I'd pop in.

I think you make a valid point about enlightenment being gained by one's actions (although I'm not sure about it being gained through the study of one's religion).

It has been said (by someone more enlightened than I) that prayer is talking to G-d while meditation is listening.

Steve Margolis
defy convention - make music
Posted on: 15 May 2004 by Thomas K
Dev,

A friend of mine is currently reading this, one of the few books that's meant to be both sympathetic and critical. Information on the author.

Thomas
Posted on: 15 May 2004 by calum scott
Hi Dev,

I've been thinking about this myself over the last while. I picked up this link from the Sunday Times recently.

http://www.buddhanet.net/

I haven't really explored it much yet but it seems quite comprehensive.

Cheers,

Calum
Posted on: 15 May 2004 by JeremyD
Dev,
Although I am a lifelong atheist and intend to remain so, I have some interest in Buddhism and would like to contribute to this thread. However, I am not sure what you are really asking. Consequently, this is a wild guess that may be totally wrong but here goes:

My guess is that perhaps you have some degree of reticence or doubt - I'm thinking in terms of the idea of "converting" to Buddhism. If so then I suggest the answer may be to do Buddhism rather than to become Buddhist. From my atheist perspective, at least, the first is more meaningful than the second...

If not then ermmm... sorry. Smile
Posted on: 04 June 2004 by 7V
quote:
Originally posted by where's vuk?:
there's buddhism, then there's richard gere, then there's steven seagal.

No, he's just the ship's chef. Roll Eyes

I've been reading a new book and having some thoughts and, as it's pertinent to this thread and to our search for 'truth & beauty', I thought I'd reawaken this thread.

The book is called "Destructive Emotions - How Can We Overcome Them". It is 'A Scientific Dialogue with the Dalai Lama' and is narrated by Daniel Goleman.

Our species needs books like this, particularly at this time, and I can recommend this one.

The foreword is by The Dalai Lama who says, and I quote: "Buddhism and science are not conflicting perspectives on the world, but rather differing approaches to the same end: seeking the truth. In Buddhist training, it is essential to investigate reality, and science offers its own ways to go about this investigation. While the purposes of science may differ from those of Buddhism, both ways of searching for truth expand our knowledge and understanding."

It strikes me that this is also true for the subjective and objective approaches to hi-fi. I consider speaker design to be a search for truth and beauty, as music can convey so much beauty while it's reproduction must be a search for truth, so I'd like to tie the above in with a couple of other recent events that have affected me on the subject of beauty.

The first was an article in 'The Sunday Telegraph' by Kevin Myers (although I read it in 'The Week'). The article was about 'The Motorcycle Diaries', a new film about Che Guevara that critics are raving about.

Basically he makes the point that Guevara oversaw the cold-blooded murder of countless political opponents in the sixties but that thanks to his good looks - captured in the famous portrait by Alberto Korda - 'this bloodthirsty savage' has become a global icon.

He then makes the point that "Guevara is a hero to the historically-ignorant and the very young, who cannot 'recognize evil when its guise is beauty and its lie is love'".

It's not just the young either. This hit home for me when I re-watched 'Cabaret' on TV this week. The scene where the beautiful young Aryan boy - resplendent in his Nazi uniform -sings 'Tomorrow Belongs to Me' and where, by the end of the song everyone is joining in, superbly illustrates the ugliness that can be inherent in beauty - unless it's beauty with truth.

Now, I'm not saying that anyone who listens to an 'inaccurate hi-fi system' which claims to be truthful is necessarily Nazi-fodder. Big Grin Still, it makes you think. Wink

Steve Margolis
defy convention - make music