Bill Gates talks sense shocker

Posted by: Tarquin Maynard - Portly on 22 December 2004

Cut and pasted from elsewhere... pretty sound!

Bill Gates' recent speech at Mount Whitney High School in Visalia, CA is worthwhile reading. Love him or hate him, he sure hit the nail on the head. He talked about how "feel-good" and "politically correct" teachings has created a generation of kids with no concept of reality and how this is setting them up for failure in the real world. He concluded his speech by outlining the following 11 rules for life:

1. Life is not fair, get used to it.

2. The world won't care about your self-esteem. However, the world will expect you to accomplish something BEFORE you start feeling good about yourself.

3. You will NOT get $40,000 a year right out of high school, (and you won't be Vice President with a car phone until you earn both).

4. If you think your teacher is tough, wait until you get a boss.
Flipping burgers at McDonalds should not be beneath your dignity. Your grandparents had a different word for burger flipping, they called it OPPORTUNITY.

5. If you mess up, it's not your parents' fault, so don't whine.

6. Before you were born, your parents weren't as boring as they are now. They got that way from paying your bills, cleaning your clothes and listening to you talk about how cool you are. So before you save the rainforest from the parasites of your parents' generation, try delousing the closet in your own room.

7. Your school may have done away with recognizing that there are winners and losers but life has not. In some schools they have even abolished failing grades, and they'll give you as much time as you want to get the right answer on an exam. This doesn't bear the slightest resemblance to ANYTHING in real life.

8. Life is not divided into semesters. You don't get summers off and very few employers are interested in helping you find yourself. You are supposed to do that in your own time.
9. Television is NOT real life. In real life people actually have to leave the coffee shop and go out and find a job.

10. Be nice to NERDS. Chances are you will end up working for one.


Seasons greetings.

Mike

Spending money I don't have on things I don't need.
Posted on: 22 December 2004 by JonR
Interesting post, Mike, except...

err...

there are only 10....

JR Confused
Posted on: 22 December 2004 by Matthew T
JR

Are you viewing on IE?

Could be the problem....
Posted on: 22 December 2004 by seagull
Jon,

That's down to the typical M$ quality control. It was up to the end user to do Bill's testing for him...
Posted on: 22 December 2004 by Derek Wright
I wonder what Charles Clark(e) ex education minister would have to say about Bill's comments - the comments seem to be in agreement with some of the other Charles' comments on kid's expectations

Derek

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Posted on: 22 December 2004 by David Stewart
A pithy list and who could take issue with it, but the attribution does seem a tad doubtful according to this - http://www.donews.net/beardnan/articles/31653.aspx
Posted on: 22 December 2004 by JonR
Aaaah yes, I see now - thanks Mr Toon.

Red Face

JR

PS: Agree about the list - it's an unusual wake-up call from Mr Gates I have to say.
Posted on: 22 December 2004 by JonR
quote:
Originally posted by seagull:
Jon,

That's down to the typical M$ quality control. It was up to the end user to do Bill's testing for him...


Winker

JR
Posted on: 22 December 2004 by Richard AV
You know what? Life aint all bad. We have far more opportunity now than we ever had. I mean if I lived 100 years ago, there were no hifi shops to work in. I'd either be a baker or work down the pit. Life is more ruthless, it's more busy, but it's better.
Posted on: 22 December 2004 by 7V
I'm impressed. Respect Mr. Gates!
Posted on: 22 December 2004 by Nime
Bill must be getting older. I bet his parents thought his messing about with computers would never add up to anything! Smile

He's now at that sad age where he thinks his naive home-baked philosophising will have some influence on kids and the young.

The problem is you just can't (ever) put wise heads on young shoulders. Tell them they only get one chance at life and they grin and nod their heads. You can almost hear them thinking: "Oh dear, poor old sod!"

The heartbreaking truth is that his list is so horribly realistic. No matter how utterly shit you think life is when you are young, it's always the best time of your life. Life is so simple when you are young.

It's just as well the young are denied wisdom and power. They'd probably quickly put the world to rights and utterly spoil it for us miserable old buggers "who've seen it all before".

Nime
Posted on: 22 December 2004 by JonR
quote:
Originally posted by Nick Lees:
quote:
Originally posted by 7V:
Respect Mr. Gates!
Nope, respect Mr Sykes. Read David's link (above) with the excellent Snopes debunking piece.

P.S. Snopes is a great read for those odd moments


Harrumph! Thought it was too good to be true! Mad
Posted on: 22 December 2004 by JeremyD
Luckily, Gates' actual ideas on education are quite different from the reactionary eleven rules: http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/articleshow/963814.cms
Posted on: 22 December 2004 by Rasher
quote:
Originally posted by JonR:
quote:
Originally posted by Nick Lees:
quote:
Originally posted by 7V:
Respect Mr. Gates!
Nope, respect Mr Sykes. Read David's link (above) with the excellent Snopes debunking piece.

P.S. Snopes is a great read for those odd moments


Harrumph! Thought it was too good to be true! Mad


Are you suggesting that Bill Gates has run off with someone elses ideas? Surely not! Eek Big Grin
Posted on: 22 December 2004 by Deane F
quote:

It certainly is a depressingly true list Frown

Unfortunately I think things are getting worse, not better. This makes it very difficult to survive if you are someone who does not want to accept the value-system (for whatever personal/philosophical/spiritual reason) that is the _modus operandi_ of the world today.

John.


Seconded.
Posted on: 22 December 2004 by mtuttleb
The 11 commandments

A bit of one up manship eh Bill?

Although I can honestly appreciate what you are trying to say.
Posted on: 22 December 2004 by Berlin Fritz
quote:
Originally posted by Nime:
Bill must be getting older. I bet his parents thought his messing about with computers would never add up to anything! Smile

He's now at that sad age where he thinks his naive home-baked philosophising will have some influence on kids and the young.

The problem is you just can't (ever) put wise heads on young shoulders. Tell them they only get one chance at life and they grin and nod their heads. You can almost hear them thinking: "Oh dear, poor old sod!"

The heartbreaking truth is that his list is so horribly realistic. No matter how utterly shit you think life is when you are young, it's always the best time of your life. Life is so simple when you are young.

It's just as well the young are denied wisdom and power. They'd probably quickly put the world to rights and utterly spoil it for us miserable old buggers "who've seen it all before".

Nime


Excellently put Nime, I only just wonder if Bill actually composed the "Words of Wisdom" himself ?

Fritz Von Doublecheesburger&friespleasebill Smile
Posted on: 23 December 2004 by Nime
I wonder if it's just pure coincidence about the titles of the "Kill Bill" films? Winker

Love him or loathe him, we should all be grateful Bill never showed any interest in joining the army. Napoleon's adventures would have seemed completely insignificant in comparison with Bill's efforts. (given half a chance) Big Grin

Nime
Posted on: 23 December 2004 by Rzme0
Cliff

Did you type that up using Word on your 75.6 GHz, 3 TB memory, 5 PB Raid 1, SRDF'd Windows PC? Big Grin

cheers

Ross
Posted on: 23 December 2004 by Deane F
By "career" most people seem to mean a job that you've chosen to do over a long period. I cannot think of anybody other than a couple of agricultural pilots (and many ag pilots die in the first 5 years) I've known who have enjoyed the same job for ten or twenty years. Most people I have ever known who've done the same job for a while hate or barely tolerate it but cannot afford to do something else.

Everybody has a career. Its just that some people have quite varied careers.

Deane
Posted on: 23 December 2004 by Nime
The nice test of whether a job is a worthwhile career is attending a typical retirement ceremony.

Ask yourself if the poor old/lucky old sod wasn't there next week would the universe actually implode?

Nope! Not even if he were Bill Gates! Big Grin

Nime
Posted on: 27 December 2004 by JeremyD
Cliff,
I posted a link to an article on Bill Gates' real ideas on education earlier: http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/articleshow/963814.cms

The more I learn about Gates (outside his role as hard-nosed businessman) the more impressed I become...
Posted on: 27 December 2004 by JeremyD
John,
quote:
Originally posted by J. A. Toon:
I'd love to run my own business but don't have the confidence or means to do so. I've got plenty of ideas though...

At 16 I didn't know what the hell I wanted to do. At 23 I still don't get this whole "career" thing (I hate it), and still don't know what the hell I want to do. I'm currently worried that I'll wake up one morning aged 33 in exactly the same (non) position.
I'm having a mild anxiety attack after reading that: I don't want anyone else to end up like me if it can be avoided. You have a PT...
Posted on: 29 December 2004 by JohanR
quote:
I've known who have enjoyed the same job for ten or twenty years. Most people I have ever known who've done the same job for a while hate or barely tolerate it but cannot afford to do something else.

Everybody has a career. Its just that some people have quite varied careers.


I'm a computer programmer and have been just that and nothing else for 20 years, working for the same company. For nearly 16 of those years I have been working in the same development environment (good old text based, non OO bullshit). I like the work enough to not having any problems with going to work in the morning. I've never had any expectations on work, other than earning me an income, and it's high enough so that I can do meaningful things on my sparetime.

I don't have a "career". It's just work. I'm satisfied as it is. The other 16 hours of my daily life is much more important.

JohanR