The US election

Of course if Kerry does win his administration is going to be a little hamstrung with the Iraq situation, don't you think?

Does anyone know what Kerry would actually do in those circumstances?

jon

Wow, even Pitchfork's gone all political- http://www.pitchforkmedia.com/.

Hour-long line at my very rural polling location this morning (normally empty). The line went out the door and into the adjacent cotton field.

In Ohio, Republican poll challengers were allowed at the last minute. Ohio may be a bigger mess than Florida this year.

ejl

is it fair to say that a stronger and better electioneering machine won the last election for the republicans?

Matthew

0000 GMT 3 November
Polls close in eight states Early returns and exit polls may start to come in from Indiana and Kentucky from 2300 GMT.

Figures are states' electoral votes
Indiana - 11
Kentucky - 8
North Carolina - 15
Ohio - 20
South Carolina - 8
Vermont - 3
Virginia - 13
West Virginia – 5

0100 GMT - polls close in 17 states plus DC
Alabama - 9
Arkansas - 6
Connecticut - 7
Delaware - 3
District of Columbia - 3
Florida - 27
Georgia - 15
Illinois - 21
Maine - 4
Maryland - 10
Massachusetts - 12
Mississippi - 6
Missouri - 11
New Hampshire - 4
New Jersey - 15
Oklahoma - 7
Pennsylvania - 21
Tennessee - 11

0200 GMT - polls close in 15 states
Arizona - 10
Colorado - 9
Kansas - 6
Louisiana - 9
Michigan - 17
Minnesota - 10
Nebraska - 5
New Mexico - 5
New York - 31
North Dakota - 3
Rhode Island - 4
South Dakota - 3
Texas - 34
Wisconsin - 10
Wyoming - 3
"By now a landslide result would have been picked up by the pundits, but this is the first point where a strong victory, as opposed to a dramatic landslide may start to reveal itself. "


0300 GMT - polls close in four states
Iowa - 7
Montana - 3
Nevada - 5
Utah - 5

0400 GMT - polls close in five states
Figures are states' electoral votes
California - 55
Hawaii - 4
Idaho - 4
Oregon - 7
Washington - 11
"Unless the race is extremely close it should be possible to have a winner declared by now."

Later : Alaska

More here: http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/americas/3760822.stm

Timo

Apologies, I forgot this bit:

"The above timetable assumes that there are no recounts, legal challenges or technical failures which could possibly delay an election result by days or weeks."

Timo

Judd & David from OH

You're fired.

So who would like to bet on the candidates for the NEXT election?

Hilary Clinton vs Arnie?

...or will Bush have changed the constitution and go for 12yrs as incumbent planet vandal.

Bruce

Bush 269, one to go.

oops i was wrong. 4 more years. the people have spoken. alex, you must feel left out...

Regards
Jim

[This message was edited by Jim Lawson on Wed 03 November 2004 at 9:42.]

Honestly, I go to bed thinking the world will be made safer and Americans will have a chance of employment and access to basic medicine and by the morning it's all gone hideously pear shaped. It's all very sad and more than somewhat baffling.

It's also rather ironic as the logical thing to do is to buy large amounts of tinned food and pray and yet all God fearing types presumably all just voted for Bushageddon.

Matthew

How on earth can we as Europeans ever take you ,Americans, serious ? Another 4 years of that stupid, narrowminded ,redneck.

Seconded.

For the record, Americans don't seek European approval or respect in our elections. Your thoughts are mildly interesting to some (i.e. Boston, NY, SF, Seattle are closer in mindset to London or Paris than to Atlanta or Houston) but laughed off by most.

Chaps

It looks like the American people have chosen wisely.

Please ignore the whingers, who predictabley whinge about the result.

The American people have made their choice, so shut and accept it.

Regards

Mick

Mick,

I accept that the majority of the Americans have proven to be simpleminded people hence voting Bush jr.

Rob.

The only scant 'consolation' is that Bush will have to see the Iraq debacle through.

Then again whether he does or instead just goes off to invade another country is open to question.

Yep, AlexG had it about right.

jon

Rob,

You have two choices:

1) Accept America's decisions and find a way to live happily within that reality, or
2) Build a nation or union significantly more powerful than the US so its choices are irrelevant.

It's fairly simple, so I'm not sure why you insist on posting disrespectful comments and sweeping generalizations about a people you clearly don't understand.

Erik,

Are you one of two Americans who knows that Kopenhagen is not the capital city of the Netherlands ?

Rob.

Tom,

You are correct. I'll stop making generalisations in order to keep the spirit of this forum alive.

Rob.

Robbie

The fact that you think the majority of the American people are "simple minded" is a rather obnoxious trait.

They voted according to their beliefs and we should all accept the result of the election, no matter which way it goes. That is what democracy is about.

Regards

Mick

Mick,

I'll accept and I'll stop making generalisations as I have stated in my earlier post.
Now out for lunch.

Rob.

Mick Parry said:

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Chaps

It looks like the American people have chosen wisely.

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Well I'm sure that Osama will agree entirely with you.

Americans were looking down the barrel of two guns. One was loaded with a massive trade deficit, growing unemployment, an already weak dollar teetering on the edge, an appalling social and environmental outlook and continuing global pariah status. The other one was packed with an uninformed fear of a nebulous “terrorist threat”. The majority, albeit a slim one, bit the bullet on all the real stuff, yielded to their psychotic fears of the concept of terrorism and like sheep were herded into their pens by the Bush/Osama ticket.

I’m glad Madrid’s granny had enough sense not to fall into this trap but sadly amongst the American electorate, she appears very much atypical.

As you are clearly one of the most intellectually and morally impoverished contributors to this forum, you'll forgive some of us if we choose to ignore your incessant wittering and offensive pleadings. If anyone wants to comment on this or any other matter then, as long as they do not transgress forum T&C, they are free to do so with having to endure the dreary inevitability of your mindless raving and whinging from the sidelines.

Bigmick said:

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Osama's Bush promo, which true to his plan seems to have stalled Kerry's momentum and handed the Presidency back to Bush. Self-obsessed, extremist nutjobs everywhere must be cock-a-hoop.

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Mr. Parry, I rest my case.

Just read in the newspapers on the internet that Andy Card (cheif of Rep adm.) said Bush had won. Hes in to big lead in Ohio no matter how the last votes will go.

Just wanted to be the first to tell...

The true winners are all those who registered for the first time and then voted, a larger voter base bodes well for future elections.