Dianaesque Public Grieving can go too far
Posted by: Berlin Fritz on 09 October 2004
I feel the public grieving over the death of Ken Bigley to be well over the top, and will be miss-used by certain parties for political time wasting and the usual smudging over FAR FAR FAR more important issues that presently face the UK.
Graham George von Nothingnewtherethen.
P.S. We'll see the blame and mud slingin merchants very soon as well, watch this space.
Graham George von Nothingnewtherethen.
P.S. We'll see the blame and mud slingin merchants very soon as well, watch this space.
Posted on: 09 October 2004 by Berlin Fritz
So do I mate, and the liberals of course, taken way way out of proportion t'be sure, innit.
G.G.v. Hauptstadt
G.G.v. Hauptstadt
Posted on: 09 October 2004 by Berlin Fritz
Talking of totally unrelated strangers jumping upon the "Emotion Bandwagon" for their own reasons and agenda's, I apoligise in advance to anybody who reads me as being cynical, but I'm not being, and feel quite sorry for the parents and family of the 14 year old girl who was GUNNED DOWN on her way home from the funfair in Nottingham ENGLAND last night.
Graham George Von Scousersshuttinupfortwominutesisarecordprobably ?
N.B. Getting yer priorities right, PM & Straw's valuable time have been forced to be wasted: Blair has openly encouraged more people to go to Iraq and earn- and rebuild, (Under Prof Minders naturally- 20,000 ex military and hero's +) which is where the little twist begins if you care to read Ken Bigleys smallprint! in regard of his not being where he should have been at the time of the kidnapping.
P.S. Come on Robinson England needs you, shabby Taffy tricks abound !!! Blind Hypocrasy² too May the Lord be wiv Yah.
Graham George Von Scousersshuttinupfortwominutesisarecordprobably ?
N.B. Getting yer priorities right, PM & Straw's valuable time have been forced to be wasted: Blair has openly encouraged more people to go to Iraq and earn- and rebuild, (Under Prof Minders naturally- 20,000 ex military and hero's +) which is where the little twist begins if you care to read Ken Bigleys smallprint! in regard of his not being where he should have been at the time of the kidnapping.
P.S. Come on Robinson England needs you, shabby Taffy tricks abound !!! Blind Hypocrasy² too May the Lord be wiv Yah.
Posted on: 09 October 2004 by Berlin Fritz
Anthony Booth the real Scouser we all loved and hated in "Till Death us do Part", would be having none of this I'm sure ! & his conniving daughter is about as Scouse as I am, and what with our Tony being a Catholic and all it's aluvvly jubbly old opportunity all round, innit, the question is, "How many other Brits/Eoropeand have enede up the same way as Mr Bigley "?
Graham George Von Bushwillnotbehappyattarikazizsdeathtobesuret'besure
Great to see that the Aussies are staying on for the course alongside the Brits and the Poles to carry on the Yanks dirty work for them, innit.
Graham George Von Bushwillnotbehappyattarikazizsdeathtobesuret'besure
Great to see that the Aussies are staying on for the course alongside the Brits and the Poles to carry on the Yanks dirty work for them, innit.
Posted on: 11 October 2004 by Berlin Fritz
Yes it can definately go too far !
Posted on: 13 October 2004 by Berlin Fritz
Firstly the good news is, I shall allow myself this one last stab at having a
rant upon this subject, then move onto other themes, as is my want! My general
conclusion in reading posts over the last week or so regarding Mr Bigley's
demise etc, and the usual 'healthy' transition of thought chaos on any and every
subject slightly associated with the original thread title came obviously as no
big suprise. What did suprise me somewhat though is the real persistance of some
to stick to the emotional 'Illogic' even after being given many arguments across
the board & not changing their stance one iota.
My thoughts refer to one group of
people bringing other's into 'quite avoidable Danger' even in War-Zones. I'll
not go on too long, eg, until recently an unexperinced sailor (UK) could buy a
boat, and happily sail off into a storm. Coatguard come and save him (at Public
cost) RNLI come and save him at their own cost, both may have lost lives in the
operation. 'Security' personell from various Country's (Civilian) work daily in
Iraq for high stakes, and at high risk, and they are no doubt personally insured
for their own families etc, which is paid out no doubt (whenever) they proved
they'd obeyed conditions of that policy, ie, remained under 'green fences' etc,
etc, which they and the firms duly paid the privelage for. I do have to spell
this out, as it's been totally ignored already more than once on more than one
thread. Soldiers/Police domestically help situations at Public cost, & overseas
when deemed 'CIvilian' and no Politician intervenes and over-rides Military
Wisdom, at Private cost. This will create a situation where the Public (British)
will eventually get very tired of more Ken Bigley situiations and ask, Why are
they there when it's still so dangerous, unklike the UN , ICRC, and many other
well established REALISTIC seriously experienced NGO's ? I believe we will see
a request from the Bigley 'Lawyers' for some kind of compensation from the
Public purse, which would obviously be very problematic for our Tony,
condidering many ex-and serving UK service personal (Granted on different
contracts & conditions) are still waiting for their basic thank you's.
Priorities are easily laid down, The grass as we all know is mainly green, but
certain folk will push and push and push until you're tired of the argument and
agree with them that it's blue to shut them up, then to be shocked after you've
signed the statement that it's used agains't you BIG-STYLE Not with me Buddy's
Not with Me !
Graham George Von Likecatsanddogsyou'reeitherwiththemoragainstthem ?
P.S. The individual Company's, as with Military organistaions generally
(hopefully) see families right financially after an incident, that's all well
and good, but when Public Expense is Openly and Often taken for granted for
totally unconstitutional reasons benefitting a few, at the cost of other well
deserving Public cases, I can only say "Thank God For Camelot", Well done Arfer,
innit (Thatcherism obviously is alive and well).
rant upon this subject, then move onto other themes, as is my want! My general
conclusion in reading posts over the last week or so regarding Mr Bigley's
demise etc, and the usual 'healthy' transition of thought chaos on any and every
subject slightly associated with the original thread title came obviously as no
big suprise. What did suprise me somewhat though is the real persistance of some
to stick to the emotional 'Illogic' even after being given many arguments across
the board & not changing their stance one iota.
My thoughts refer to one group of
people bringing other's into 'quite avoidable Danger' even in War-Zones. I'll
not go on too long, eg, until recently an unexperinced sailor (UK) could buy a
boat, and happily sail off into a storm. Coatguard come and save him (at Public
cost) RNLI come and save him at their own cost, both may have lost lives in the
operation. 'Security' personell from various Country's (Civilian) work daily in
Iraq for high stakes, and at high risk, and they are no doubt personally insured
for their own families etc, which is paid out no doubt (whenever) they proved
they'd obeyed conditions of that policy, ie, remained under 'green fences' etc,
etc, which they and the firms duly paid the privelage for. I do have to spell
this out, as it's been totally ignored already more than once on more than one
thread. Soldiers/Police domestically help situations at Public cost, & overseas
when deemed 'CIvilian' and no Politician intervenes and over-rides Military
Wisdom, at Private cost. This will create a situation where the Public (British)
will eventually get very tired of more Ken Bigley situiations and ask, Why are
they there when it's still so dangerous, unklike the UN , ICRC, and many other
well established REALISTIC seriously experienced NGO's ? I believe we will see
a request from the Bigley 'Lawyers' for some kind of compensation from the
Public purse, which would obviously be very problematic for our Tony,
condidering many ex-and serving UK service personal (Granted on different
contracts & conditions) are still waiting for their basic thank you's.
Priorities are easily laid down, The grass as we all know is mainly green, but
certain folk will push and push and push until you're tired of the argument and
agree with them that it's blue to shut them up, then to be shocked after you've
signed the statement that it's used agains't you BIG-STYLE Not with me Buddy's
Not with Me !
Graham George Von Likecatsanddogsyou'reeitherwiththemoragainstthem ?
P.S. The individual Company's, as with Military organistaions generally
(hopefully) see families right financially after an incident, that's all well
and good, but when Public Expense is Openly and Often taken for granted for
totally unconstitutional reasons benefitting a few, at the cost of other well
deserving Public cases, I can only say "Thank God For Camelot", Well done Arfer,
innit (Thatcherism obviously is alive and well).
Posted on: 13 October 2004 by Kevin-W
Probably better that people get upset over the vicious murder of Ken Bigley than the accidental death of an over-privileged, anorexic half-wit like Diana. That really was bloody nauseating...
Kevin (BBC Radio 4: Today)
Kevin (BBC Radio 4: Today)
Posted on: 14 October 2004 by Berlin Fritz
I think you've nicely manouvered that argument Sir, and you know full well it's worthless in respect of the point that I'm making, possibly Beck's should be the next or Posh even ?
I've heard nobody on this forum mention a certaion little girl from Sheffiekld strangely enough, maybe she didn't count ?
I can't even get her hometown right, how sad !
[This message was edited by Berlin Fritz on Thu 14 October 2004 at 19:05.]
I've heard nobody on this forum mention a certaion little girl from Sheffiekld strangely enough, maybe she didn't count ?
I can't even get her hometown right, how sad !
[This message was edited by Berlin Fritz on Thu 14 October 2004 at 19:05.]