Why so high?
Posted by: Nime on 06 October 2004
Hi
While listening to Maria Carey on the radio I had a thought that kept nagging at me.
Why is that pop stars of both sexes often sing as high as they can? Often beyond their natural range.
The odd thing is that natural comparisons with similarly high human voices. Like shrieking babies and screaming women. Aren't at all pleasant.
Maria Carey seems to be able to produce a real whistle she can reach so high. It's a shame her compass isn't made better use of with more interesting material.
The BeeGees joined an upward trend. But why would a bawling, be-bangled and be-chained, hairy 'metal' singer feel it necessary to shriek and squeal like a woman?
I have even heard of opera fans wishing the castrati (or castrates) were still knocking around.
What is this desire to reach the vocal stratosphere? What strange emotions does it conjure up in singer and audience to warrant the effort? And is the rising trend continuing ever upwards?
Regards
Nime
Posted on: 17 October 2004 by pe-zulu
Dear Nime
Yes certainly.
It is about music from ca.1200 to 1400.
The double CD "The art of courtly love"
(EMI) by David Munrow is an anthology
from Machaut through the Ars Subtilior to
Dufay. It is marvellous and engaging even if it was made 1972 or so.
The Orlando Consort (four english gentlemen - one countertenor,two tenors and a bass) has made twoCDs for DG Archive , one with Ars Subtiliorand one with works by Machaut (and one with works of Perotin also), all three very fine.
But one of the most important works from this period, the Mass of Machaut, exists in more fine versions. I prefer personally the recording by The Taverner Consort led by Andrew Parrot (EMI), but the versions by The Binchois Ensemble led by Dominique Vellard (Cantus) or the version led by Rene Clemencic (Arte Nova Classics) are very fine too. You will surely find the style foreign, ma c'est la peine.
Venlig hilsen
Posted on: 18 October 2004 by Nime
pe-zulu
I have ordered online from bibliotek.dk.
About six CDs in all. Including "Dreams from the pleasure garden" amongst others.
I'll post my impressions when they arrive.
Many thanks for the kind suggestions.
Best regards
Nime
Posted on: 18 October 2004 by greeny
I think the answer to this was nailed early on with "Because she can"
If you can sing higher, lower etc etc than normal then you are inclined to take advantage of that and show off the fact. The same thing applys to other instruments, if you are as techncally gifted as Joe Satriani (for example) then it is difficult not to try to show this off on almost every track you play on.
Posted on: 18 October 2004 by Nime
Excellent example greeny! Which raises another point. The use of musical instruments to achieve high notes. Logic suggests that the piccolo or garklein would be our favorite instruments if only the high notes were desirable.
But in fact it seems to be the contrast between low and high which is important. The sense of soaring above the normal register. It excites the senses. It seems important to have sung (or played) lower and then to swoop higher to obtain maximum effect.
CĂ©line Dion reminded me of this only today on the radio with "Learn to fly". She really soars near the end of this track.
Nime
Posted on: 19 October 2004 by pe-zulu
Dear Nime (strange name, pronounced name, naime,or what, naijm (cockney english) or what.
I hope the 1300-style will appeal to you, and I am interested to hear about your reaction. You have to listen to it many times before answering.
Venlig hilsen (danish for friendly greetings)
Posted on: 20 October 2004 by Nime
quote:
Originally posted by pe-zulu:
Dear Nime (strange name, pronounced name, naime,or what, naijm (cockney english) or what.
I hope the 1300-style will appeal to you, and I am interested to hear about your reaction. You have to listen to it many times before answering.
Venlig hilsen (danish for friendly greetings)
I call myelf Nime simply because that was the pronunciation I used in my head for "Naim" for years. Until I finally heard it pronounced correctly at a Naim dealers. Previously, I had only read the 'naim' in Hifi mags.
Thanks again for the CD suggestions.
Med venlig hilsen
Nime