In what order would you plug in the following into a wiremold strip?

Posted by: Jaybar on 03 November 2000

1) Spectral Amp
2) Hi Cap for the CD 5
3) Hiugh Current Power Supply for Spectral Pre-amp
4) Linn Lingo
5) Linn Linto
6) CD 5
Posted on: 04 November 2000 by Joe Petrik
Martin,

quote:
My recommendation, if you are willing to rewire mains voltage wiring, is to open up the Wiremold and wire the outlets in parallel, instead of the series arrangement that they are in.

If the Wiremold came wired is series, as you suggest, you'd get voltage drops across each receptacle and it would only work if something was plugged into each one, sort of like Christmas tree light. Surely this can't be what you mean.


Jaybar,

quote:

1) Spectral Amp
2) Hi Cap for the CD 5
3) Hiugh Current Power Supply for Spectral Pre-amp
4) Linn Lingo
5) Linn Linto
6) CD 5

With an all-Naim system, people seem split between a source first-to-amp last order, and an amp first-to-source last order.

In my system, the source-to-amp order sounds a little more coherent and organized; the amp-to-source order sounds a little more dynamic.

Try both and use the order you prefer.

Joe

Posted on: 05 November 2000 by Arye_Gur
Jaybar,

If I understand well you have an array of sockets when the first is the nearest to the main socket on the wall.

If so, I think you must plug in the units according to their importance in the hierarchy chain - and this is my suggestion:
1 Lingo
2 linto
3 Hi cap for cd5
4 Power supply for pre amp
5 amp

Arie

[This message was edited by Arie_Gur on SUNDAY 05 November 2000 at 10:51.]

Posted on: 05 November 2000 by Phil Barry
While Arie's suggestion is intuitively correct, I believe the recommendation is: amp closest to the cable, with source farthest away. For me it's amp, hicap, CD player, tuner, LP12, hicap.

The last hicap is there because I don't want to unplug anything, and it's the last item purchased. Of course, I just realized that's a bit silly, since my CD player has been powered off since mid-August.

I did a quick check when I bought it. The check can't be exact, since powering stuff off even for a few seconds may affect the equipment. Anyhow, the dealer recommendation was slightly better.

Can you check with your dealer?

Phil

Posted on: 05 November 2000 by Bob Edwards
The advice I received on this from NANA was to plug the power amp(s) first, followed by the preamp, followed by the sources. This has, in my experience, worked the best but others, notably Joe Petrik, disagrees, as he notes above. Best advice, offered above, is to try both and see.

Cheers,

Bob

Posted on: 05 November 2000 by Arye_Gur
The Amp demands the most current compare to the other components. So I think it is not a good idea to plug the amp before the linto for example, as the linto may suffer of changes in current as the amp "swallows" a great "amount" of current before it.
If the amp is after the linto, the linto may suffer less when the amp swallows current.
I pluged the components in this order but I must admit I didn't try to change it - LP12, Cdi,flatcap,140,NAD tuner, Akai tape.

Arie

Posted on: 05 November 2000 by Phil Barry
Arie,

NANA's advice has been quoted, and actual experience has been cited.

There appear to be 3 choices in this discussion: 1) accept the advice of the people who are marketing the piece to Niam users (i.e. NANA); 2) do the experiment yourself to hear which one you like; and 3) argue with authority (i.e. NANA) with no basis other than theory which does not include the device in question anyway.

Have you listened to a system plugged into a Wiremold power strip?

Posted on: 06 November 2000 by Arye_Gur
Phil,

Maybe I don't understand what a wiremold is - plese explain.

I don't know who or what is NANA.

Arie

Posted on: 06 November 2000 by Phil Barry
Wiremold is the manufacturer of a power strip which is recommended by NANA, Naim Audio of North America, for use with Naim equipment in the US. I believe it is also used in Canada - or, presumably, any other location w/60 Hz, 110-120 volt AC power.

It is the topic of this thread - In what order would you plug in the following into a wiremold strip?

Posted on: 06 November 2000 by Arye_Gur
Phil,

As I know, the right order to connect components to the electricity is like I described it. Of course it is not a problem to try any other order.

I don't understand if the wiremold, because of something in its structure differs compare to a regular array of sockets.

If there is something special in its structure please let me know just for my curiosity - anyway, after your post I tried to find the different with people whom I trust - and they told me that it doesn't seem that a wiremold chenges the order in which components should be pluged in.

The "rule" is, that the components that deal with low level siganls and may be affected easily by changes in the input power should be the closest to the main socket.

If pluging the power amp first is just an outcome
of an experience then ok, if there is some logic in it, please let me know it.

Arie

Posted on: 06 November 2000 by Eric Barry
This is from http://www.naimusa.com/main.html

WIREMOLD

Naim Audio North America strongly recommends a special outlet strip manufactured by the
Wiremold Corporation, which is available at your local Naim Audio dealer.


This strip has nine hospital-grade sockets
hardwired together; however, unlike the
power strips available at hardware stores,
there is no circuit breaker, noise filter, light,
switch or fuse. Any one of these items will
drastically reduce the system's musical
performance.

The Wiremold strip is the only strip that is free
of these performance-robbing items, while
providing a suitable number of outlets for even
the largest Naim systems.

<< Wiremold L10320 shown at left.


The order in which the components are plugged into the strip is critical. If you plug the power
amplifier into the strip closest to the end where the strip power cord enters, and work your way
back to the source component, you will get a much better sound. Here are some examples:

A simple system:

1.NAP 90 Power Amplifier
2.FLATCAP Power Supply for NAC 92 Preamplifier
3.NA CD3.5 Compact Disc Player
4.Other sources, turntable, etc., in any order

An SBL active system:

1.NAP 250 Power Amplifier
2.NAP 250 Power Amplifier
3.HICAP Power Supply for S-NAXO 2-4 Active Crossover
4.SUPERCAP Power Supply for NAC 82 Preamplifier
5.FLATCAP Power Supply for NA CD3.5 Compact Disc Player (optional)
6.NA CD3.5 Compact Disc Player

Because of the advantage of being able to control the order in which the components are plugged in,
using a Wiremold strip is far superior to plugging components directly into a quad or double quad
receptacle. Here are a couple more tips:

Keep power wires separated from signal wires--do not bunch your power wires together,
but keep them flowing as gracefully as possible (electricity does not flow effeciently around
sharp corners and bends).
Use only the Naim Audio power cords as supplied--they easily outperform even the most
expensive power cords, and certainly any average cord.

Posted on: 06 November 2000 by Eric Barry
Not wanting to blow $40 on a power strip (Wiremolds are also available from electronics supply houses, BTW) coz I'm cheap, I did the following:

I got a metal cased 6 outlet strip at Kmart for $5, unscrewed it, cut the wires going to the fuse and switch, bypassed them, soldered it up, and screwed the case back together. The receptacles are likely inferior to the Wiremold, but at 1/8th the cost.

--Eric

Posted on: 06 November 2000 by David Dever
quote:
My recommendation, if you are willing to rewire mains voltage wiring, is to open up the Wiremold and wire the outlets in parallel, instead of the series arrangement that they are in.

The outlets of the Wiremold strip are arranged as a "bus", such that there exists a negligible "series" resistance between outlets per conductor (the links). I have tried the alternate "star" topology (hydra) before--this adds even MORE cable to the mix. (Compare this to the single-wire versus bi-wire debate, etc., etc. ad nauseum).

Dave Dever, NANA