LP12 & Michell record clamp

I don't believe linn recommend any clamp to be used with the deck. More over if the clamp has any kind of weight, its likely to cause havok with the suspension and level.

Don't think so.

If it's the type that a friend tried on his LP12 recently; it wouldn't grip the spindle.

Anyway; as Garyi says The Scottish Company don't approve, and will remove your testicles if you try it!

They'll have a go, even if you are a female.

You have been warned.

I used to use one with my old Thorens deck, but it didn't work on my LP 12. I tried many mats and ended up with that cork ring thingy which sounds best without any sort of puck.

Regards Robert

ps If you have a Lingo don't forget to remove the mains filter!

The LP12 is supposed to spin permanently, so how do you get the clamp on?
Also, doesn't a clamp need a turntable mat that rises sligntly in the centre so that the clamp forces the record flat?

Paul Rowlands

The LP12 should be a clamp-free zone.

If you insist on using record clamps, at least get a big american turntable to use it with! Then head off on a soundstaging and valves expedition, with The Absolute Sound as your guidebook.

Seriously though, no clamps.

Rico - SM/Mullet Audio

J.N.

Binned all my record clamps after reading your remark about testicles...can't be too careful!!

Cheers Robert

Cheers - LP12 is a clamp free zone!

Hello Prowla,

Where did you hear that. Why is it important that the Lingo must keep going?
I must admit to switching the thing on before I play a record and switch off at the end.

Just interested, have I missed something?

Regards Robert

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Originally posted by Goldstar:
I must admit to switching the thing on before I play a record and switch off at the end.

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Hmmm -- almost. What you do is to switch it on before you play a record, and switch it off after you've finally finished playing records -- subtle yet vital difference! Most people find that if the LP12 is working well, just one record won't do.

Turning disks over and changing them with the platter spinning shouldn't cause the slightest problem after about about 30 seconds' practice, and saves a lot of belt wear, not to mention time.

Best;

Mark

Hello Mark,

Of course I keep the thing spinning until the end of the record playing session. Prowla seemed to be advocating leaving the thing spinning permanently.

Cheers Robert

if there would be at any time any doubt about using any clamp on a lp12,linn ( or the tweakers of lp12)would sell it as an upgrade ,or it would be discussed in forums like ringmat or ekos or lp12 with naim gear or for and against lingo and armageddon.
as this is not the case i suppose clamp was
never a theme on lp12.
o.j

My fault iwanted to say Aro not ekos.
O.J.

Rico,
"If you insist on using record clamps, at least get a big american turntable to use it with! Then head off on a soundstaging and valves expedition, with The Absolute Sound as your guidebook".
It's interesting that several Brits have more recently been using Michell and Avid t/ts, both of which use clamps, in preference to the Linn. Prime example must be the veteran reviewer James Michael Hughes, who in the 1980s was using a state-of-the-art LP12, and has subsequently used a Xerxes and a Kusma; but now uses an Avid Volvere Sequel/RB1000. The other highly-regarded decks which use clamps are the SMEs of course, which were used by several members of this forum at one point.

But no clamps on a Linn, Roksan or Rega.

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Of course I keep the thing spinning until the end of the record playing session. Prowla seemed to be advocating leaving the thing spinning permanently.

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Mine definitely sounds better after it's been on spinning for a few days.

If I think I won't be using it for a few days I tend to pull the big grey plug out from the back of the armageddon so it is still powered up but the LP12 isn't spinning.

I've heard of people who just leave the LP12 on ALL the time although given the tales of spontaneous combustion I'm not sure I'd do this with a valhalla version.

Phil

Every turntable I have heard with a clamp I preferred without. This includes the turntable I had before my LP12 - an Elite Rock, which came with its own clamp.

I wonder if those who like clamps tend to like them on any turntable, while those who don't er... don't?

Hmm, interesting thread.

I have just ordered a Michell clamp for my Pink Triangle PT Too, partly because it sounded like the cheapest upgrade going; partly because Walrus Systems seemed to think it was a good idea.

The PT Too is a wobbly mutha with an acrylic platter and shortish spindle. I don't want to mess with its honeycomb suspension...do you think I should avoid a clamp too?

If I risk it I will report back on the sound.

Chris

It's been ages since I've done any serious comparative T/T deming, apart from before/afters following setups. I'd love to hear what the pro's are using in favour of their renounced Linn kit. I trust you did appreciate my anti soundstaging and clamping comments were tongue-in-cheek.

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Avid Volvere Sequel/RB1000.

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Ooh err, sounds a bit rude, that one.

Seriously though, I've not even heard of the Avid, let alone had an opportunity to hear one. I guess my turntable knowledge has been rightfully stripped bare as being a bit outdated!

Oh hang on though, isn't the chap you mention the James Michael Hughes who gave mass to the expression "it's all a bit Jimmy Hughes"?

best

Rico - SM/Mullet Audio

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Originally posted by Chris Metcalfe:
...the veteran reviewer James Michael Hughes, who in the 1980s was using a state-of-the-art LP12, and has subsequently used a Xerxes and a Kusma; but now uses an Avid Volvere Sequel/RB1000.

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I think this may well have more to do with a free-lance journalist's carefull "positioning" of himself in the hack market so as attract the better-paying commisssions. IMHO, very few of these people can be taken at all seriously -- their role is to trigger disatisfaction, with the accompanying advertising building on this. They have no interest at all in anyone being entirely comfortable with their current music system.

Best;

Mark