The futility of giving audio advice

Posted by: Chayro on 14 April 2007

I recall auditioning a very nice pair of speakers with an amplifier that was just barely adequate to drive them at moderate levels. They sounded very nice, but they were a bit boomy. Not too bad, but it was noticeable. My dealer suggested I try a certain brand of bi-wire jumpers, just to see what would happen. I was totally amazed at the improvement. It was as if I upgraded my entire system. The bass was under control and the vocals were natural and sweet. I took everything home and within a very short span of time, encouraged everyone I could find to buy these jumpers, promising the same miraculous results I had achieved. Of course, I performed several A/B comparisons with the stock brass plates, and each time, I confirmed the fact that these $300 jumpers were a substantial improvement. No doubt in my mind. I also performed a few A/B’s with a cheap $60 pair of jumpers made of a heavy copper wire and the expensive ones won every time.

Time passed and I decided to upgrade my electronics to a much more expensive preamp/amp combo, the amplifier being significantly more robust than its predecessor. I was very happy with the system, but having an urge to tinker, I removed the remarkable jumpers and inserted the stock metal plates that came with the speakers, expecting the system to become unlistenable. Much to my surprise, there wasn’t much of a difference. Perhaps the bass was a bit tighter and the vocals more present, but I couldn’t be sure. For the most part, the previously miraculous jumpers yielded a very minimal improvement, if any. I certainly would not have purchased them, had I auditioned the speakers with my new amplifier the first time around.

More time passed, and for reasons I have since forgotten, I changed the speakers to smaller standmounts, which fit into my room a bit better. They sounded quite good with the stock brass plates, but after a lengthy break-in, I decided to try my $60 jumpers and found they yielded a substantial improvement. The bass was fuller, but not boomy, and the vocals had a very lifelike quality. To my surprise, the expensive jumpers sounded terrible on this system. They made the speakers sound reedy and thin. Had I heard these jumpers for the first time on this system, I would have pronounced them a total rip-off, and that the $60 jumpers were superior to the $300 ones.

My belabored point is – no one component makes music. An amplifier has no sound until it is preceded by a source and preamp and followed by a speaker. Only a complete system can make a sound, and a component can only be evaluated within the context of a system, not to mention the room. I think it’s something we should all remember before we quickly dismiss someone’s opinion whose view differs from our own, of course with the quasi-witty insult at the end. I guess I’ve done that myself – but I don’t do it anymore. Live and learn.
Posted on: 14 April 2007 by u5227470736789439
It is nice, therefore, that Naim take the guess-work out of it by providing the chance to buy complete sets, from source to speakers, developed to work together.

Of course that does not make it inherently better than a suitable collection of disparate piece, but it means you can get to the music very much quicker, and then forget messing with the set!

Auditioning of pieces is still essential for all that!

ATB from Fredrik
Posted on: 14 April 2007 by Mick P
Fredrik

As usual you have hit the button.

Regards

Mick
Posted on: 15 April 2007 by Sloop John B
quote:
Originally posted by Chayro:
I recall auditioning a very nice pair of speakers with an amplifier that was just barely adequate to drive them at moderate levels. They sounded very nice, but they were a bit boomy. Not too bad, but it was noticeable. My dealer suggested I try a certain brand of bi-wire jumpers, just to see what would happen. I was totally amazed at the improvement. It was as if I upgraded my entire system. The bass was under control and the vocals were natural and sweet. I took everything home and within a very short span of time, encouraged everyone I could find to buy these jumpers, promising the same miraculous results I had achieved. Of course, I performed several A/B comparisons with the stock brass plates, and each time, I confirmed the fact that these $300 jumpers were a substantial improvement. No doubt in my mind. I also performed a few A/B’s with a cheap $60 pair of jumpers made of a heavy copper wire and the expensive ones won every time.

Time passed and I decided to upgrade my electronics to a much more expensive preamp/amp combo, the amplifier being significantly more robust than its predecessor. I was very happy with the system, but having an urge to tinker, I removed the remarkable jumpers and inserted the stock metal plates that came with the speakers, expecting the system to become unlistenable. Much to my surprise, there wasn’t much of a difference. Perhaps the bass was a bit tighter and the vocals more present, but I couldn’t be sure. For the most part, the previously miraculous jumpers yielded a very minimal improvement, if any. I certainly would not have purchased them, had I auditioned the speakers with my new amplifier the first time around.

More time passed, and for reasons I have since forgotten, I changed the speakers to smaller standmounts, which fit into my room a bit better. They sounded quite good with the stock brass plates, but after a lengthy break-in, I decided to try my $60 jumpers and found they yielded a substantial improvement. The bass was fuller, but not boomy, and the vocals had a very lifelike quality. To my surprise, the expensive jumpers sounded terrible on this system. They made the speakers sound reedy and thin. Had I heard these jumpers for the first time on this system, I would have pronounced them a total rip-off, and that the $60 jumpers were superior to the $300 ones.

My belabored point is – no one component makes music. An amplifier has no sound until it is preceded by a source and preamp and followed by a speaker. Only a complete system can make a sound, and a component can only be evaluated within the context of a system, not to mention the room. I think it’s something we should all remember before we quickly dismiss someone’s opinion whose view differs from our own, of course with the quasi-witty insult at the end. I guess I’ve done that myself – but I don’t do it anymore. Live and learn.




Excellent post Chayro, I think this deserves a run in the Hi Fi forum.



SJB
Posted on: 15 April 2007 by Alexander
quote:
Originally posted by Chayro:
Only a complete system can make a sound, and a component can only be evaluated within the context of a system, not to mention the room. I think it’s something we should all remember before we quickly dismiss someone’s opinion whose view differs from our own, of course with the quasi-witty insult at the end.

To put it only slightly tongue in cheek(but it's still worth a chuckle):
the objectivity of people's statements is often underestimated.

What is considered subjective becomes a lot more more objective once the necessary context is provided.
Posted on: 15 April 2007 by Rico
Well said, Frederik.