New Elbow

Posted by: Minky on 24 September 2003

Two seconds after first time I heard Coldplay on the radio in NZ I was on the blower to my local CD store. At that stage they were virtually unknown in NZ but I recall thinking that here was something different and exciting and deserving of worldwide attention that it would sadly probably never receive. I started telling people about "Parachute" but it wasn't too long before the wave overtook me and Coldplay was playing in old-folks homes and taxis up and down the land of the long white cloud. I later learnt that Coldplay had never been a secret in England, having gone straight to number one in the charts.

Of course, popularity always creates a backlash. Anything beloved by the great unwashed is by definition trite rubbish. I've seen a fair amount of Coldplay bashing on this forum so I'm probably sticking my neck out a bit when I say that I still think that they are the real deal. The next post will no doubt begin with Coldplay : followed by something to do with Gwyneth Paltrow and neutron bombs. Fire away.

OK, so on Monday I borrowed a copy of Elbow's new album "cast of thousands". I had it for one night and I played it twice and now I am finding it very hard to get the tunes out of my poor head. From my brief exposure I can tell you that the album is stuffed to the brim with fantastic songs, the first track sounds like Coldplay in a monastery, the singer says "inshide" instead of "inside" (speech impediments seem to be a prerequisite of the genre), they are fond of long monotonic vocal phrases with monotonic vocal harmonies that are hypnotic and robotic and haunting, and I have to wait a week until I can hear it again.

If there is any justice in this world this album will have already gone straight to number one in your country and you will be shaking your head in disbelief at my naivete, but just in case, I urge you to have a listen. It's a bloody cracker mate !
Posted on: 24 September 2003 by ejl
Coldplay: at least a neutron bomb leaves you with your flesh and bone.

(Man, you don't make it easy here Minky.)

Honestly, I don't think I've ever heard them. Don't listen to the radio (you wouldn't either if you lived where I live). Must get out more.

Eric
Posted on: 24 September 2003 by Minky
Eric,

You forgot to mention Gwyneth matey !
Posted on: 24 September 2003 by ejl
Minky,

"something to do with Gwyneth Paltrow".

Flesh and Bone is a movie starring Gwyneth Paltrow.

You're excused for not having seen it. Wink

Eric
Posted on: 24 September 2003 by Minky
quote:
Originally posted by AndrewThomas:
Should have been called "Flesh, more Flesh and Boner" - both Gwyneth and Meg Ryan get their kit off..



Sorry but I don't believe you. Gwyneth likes getting her juglets and botty out for the lads, but Meg ? Can you elaborate ?

quote:

"I've said it once before but it bears repeating".. Also check out Elbow's "Asleep in the Back" and South's "From here on in"


I know, and I listened to both. IMO the new Elbow builds heavily on the strengths of the first album.

quote:

Good to know the new elbow effort is good. I still ain't paying $25 for the import though.. not when I can get Flesh and Bone on DVD for $10 !!!

Then nick it. My nephew was staying when I got "cast of thousands" and he had a small MP3 player (128MB). He plugged it into my PC and loaded the entire album into 29MB ! I expected to hear internet quality rubbish but was bowled over at how good it sounded through my mini Sennheisers. It gave me an inkling of what Matthew Robinson has been talking about because you definitely "get" the music at that level - much more than on some hi-fi systems. I am now lusting after an iPOD.
Posted on: 25 September 2003 by Bruce Woodhouse
Back to topic?

The new Elbow is a lot better than the first one I think. Sure it veers a bit close to flag-waving crowd pleasers a la Coldplay but I've had it since release and it is passing the test of repeated plays. Reminds me of James in places too-which I think is not a totally bad idea. Try 'Laid' if you like the Elbow album for example-James with some Eno magic dust!

Bruce

[This message was edited by Bruce Woodhouse on THURSDAY 25 September 2003 at 10:05.]
Posted on: 04 October 2003 by Jay
Bought "cast of thousands" yesterday and it's not bad. Not sure if it's in Coldplay league Minky Big Grin

It actually reminds me much more of The Doves than James...

Jay

Yeah...well it seemed like a good idea at the time.
Posted on: 05 October 2003 by Minky
Jay,

Now that I have a copy of my own and have listened to it a few million times I think you may be right. The album is full of amazing moments that fail to connect into something that I can really get my teeth into. It doesn't feel like a grower either ..

I'm reserving final judgement until I have listened to it a few more (million) times.

[This message was edited by Minky on SUNDAY 05 October 2003 at 11:21.]
Posted on: 05 October 2003 by Jay
quote:
listened to it a few more (million) times.


Ah yes. The old million times trick Big Grin

I'll get back to you after my million listens!

Jay

Yeah...well it seemed like a good idea at the time.
Posted on: 06 October 2003 by Jay
Well, listened to it a million times today and it's really growing on me. I can see where your Coldplay comments come from. Mainly the vocals yeah? I'm picking up influences from The Doves and dare I say it, Seal! A track early on has a very Trevor Horn feel about it.

Not bad.

Jay

Yeah...well it seemed like a good idea at the time.
Posted on: 06 October 2003 by ajalden
They in a diffrent league to Coldplay they not going to appeal to the masses like Coldplay and it's a album that really grows on you.

Andy