Berlioz Symphonie Fantastique : Monteux, Paris Symphonie Orchestra

Posted by: mikeeschman on 07 December 2008

Monteux is a figure out of history. I first read of him when studying Stravinsky, for whom he premiered a number of works. In this 1930 recording, he leads the Paris Symphony Orchestra - an orchestra i have not heard before.

Rumor has it that Monteux's score is Berlioz' own rehearsal score. That is easy to believe.

On this forum, we have talked a number of times about the effect of recording quality on appreciation of the performance. We have also talked about the importance of being in tune and on time.

This recording is "thin", as you would expect in a 1930 recording. But it is also exceptionally clear, especially in the higher partials. The bass is quite rolled off, but the upper partials are clear as a bell.

The Paris Symphony Orchestra is exquisite, a beautiful intonation and a rhythmic sense of line possessed by few orchestras.

Because of this, it is easy for your mind to "fill in the blanks" in the recording.

As for interpretation, i enjoyed it tremendously every time i listened. interesting point : it is clear to me that Gardiner listened to Monteux in preparing his own Symphonie Fantastique.
Posted on: 07 December 2008 by u5227470736789439
Dear Mike,

I reckon it is a not merely fascinating historical document in more than passable sound, but rather compelling as a musical statement.

I think that listening to the strength and precision of it, it is no wonder that Stravinki was prepared to work with [did he actually ever admire anyone?] Monteux on the Rite Of spring and other major premieres that Monteux gave.

But there is almost a droll humour in there as well, at least in the end of the March! As well as particular grace of the Waltz.

I am glad it gave pleasure, and it is regrettable that Pearl have deletefd the re-issue, so that it is only available at a significant premium over its original issue price. That is sad ...

ATB from George
Posted on: 07 December 2008 by mikeeschman
quote:
Originally posted by GFFJ:
rather compelling as a musical statement.

there is almost a droll humour in there as well, at least in the end of the March! As well as particular grace of the Waltz.

I am glad it gave pleasure,
ATB from George


exactly so :-)
Posted on: 07 December 2008 by mikeeschman
i found the recording at arkivmusic.com :

1. Symphonie fantastique, Op. 14 by Hector Berlioz
Conductor: Pierre Monteux
Orchestra/Ensemble: Paris Symphony Orchestra
Period: Romantic
Written: 1830; France
Date of Recording: 06/1930
Venue: Salle Pleyel, Paris, France
Length: 46 Minutes 35 Secs.

the length of the gardiner piece is about 53 minutes, so the similarity in tempi i noted in passing is "superficial".
Posted on: 07 December 2008 by u5227470736789439
The Klemperer recording I have times at 56m. 45s., so that puts a bit of a perpective on it. Gardiner, closer in timing to Klemperer than Monteux.

I think the reason that Monteux's performance does not feel rushed or more than reasonably quick is the precision of the playing and quick-silver fleetness of the articulation, and phrasing, which had it been ragged, would have produced a horrble feeling of over-driven tempi!

An amazing achievement.

George