Headline, what Power Supply?

Posted by: Goldstar on 14 February 2004

My new Headline is being delivered on Wednesday.
Is it worth going for the Hi-Cap just for Headphones ?(Sennheiser 580 Jubilee). My pre-amp is an 82 with Supercap.

Cheers Robert
Posted on: 15 February 2004 by Goldstar
Ross,
Posted on: 15 February 2004 by Goldstar
Sorry , pushed the wrong button!

Hi Ross,

That sounds very encouraging , thanks. My dealer is bringing a Hi-Cap on Wednesday!
Posted on: 15 February 2004 by Chris Metcalfe
Ross,

I've just replaced my 82 (powered by Supercap/2 snaics) with a new 252 (very nice too), and in doing so lost the NAPSC I was using to drive my Headline2 - so I bought a Flatcap as well (thought the Hicap would be a bit OTT). Now it transpires I could have used one of the now-redundant SNAIC sockets on the Supercap for the Headline2 - OR COULD I? It seems to work, but I wonder if it would be detrimental to either the 252 or the HL to use both at once from the Supercap?

These are the sorts of questions that nice Mr Dane doesn't seem to want to answer...

I could have used that £500 towards a CDS3!
Posted on: 15 February 2004 by London Lad
Also re above:

The 252 has a powered aux socket as well, whats all that about ?

Graham.

Not a lad any longer and not from London!
Posted on: 15 February 2004 by London Lad
Thanks Ross

Graham.

Not a lad any longer and not from London!
Posted on: 16 February 2004 by Chris Metcalfe
Ross,

Thanks. Hopefully Richard can confirm your point about the Supercap.

'The powered aux socket is only designed for the Prefix' - or the Stageline, which is what I'll be using. However I'm reliably informed that the Flatcap2 can power both the Headline and the Stageline simultaneously. I do think we need some official guidance on all of this.
Posted on: 16 February 2004 by Goldstar
Hi Chris,

Is it not the responsibility of the dealer to provide official guidance?

Cheers Robert
Posted on: 17 February 2004 by Chris Metcalfe
Yes, I think so, but the dealer told me all he knew, which was the above... But it does seem to be a grey area, so I was fishing for a definitive technical response from Naim on this forum. None seems forthcoming, however.
Posted on: 17 February 2004 by Richard Dane
quote:
Originally posted by Chris Metcalfe:
Ross,

Thanks. Hopefully Richard can confirm your point about the Supercap.

'The powered aux socket is only designed for the Prefix' - or the Stageline, which is what I'll be using. However I'm reliably informed that the Flatcap2 can power both the Headline and the Stageline simultaneously. I do think we need some official guidance on all of this.


Chris,

Only the Flatcap2 is designed to power two items simultaneously, all the others should only be used to power one. If you have your Supercap powering the NAC252 you shoudln't use one of the 5pin connections on the Supercap to also power a Headline - overall system performance will be compromised and long term you may cause damage if regulators are overly stressed.

Richard
Posted on: 18 February 2004 by Dave J
Do also try a new Napsc which I've found is superb, particularly when it's got it's own spur.
Posted on: 18 February 2004 by Chris Metcalfe
Richard - thanks.
Posted on: 01 March 2004 by Goldstar
Well, my Headline was installed by my dealer on Friday, together with a new Hi-Cap.

My Senheiser 580 phones sound so wonderful.

The background is silent and the bass goes down and down.

By the way the Mains lead for the Headline was different from previous leads in that the socket at the e
Posted on: 01 March 2004 by Goldstar
The new Headline was delivered on Friday with a new Hi-Cap and installed by my dealer Tibor.

Wonderful silent backgrounds with a bass that goes down and down.

By the way the mains lead had a high quality socket on the equipment end instead of the usual moulded item.

It's still warming up but it is a revelation to hear so much more musical info.

Three cheers for Naim they have done it again!!

Regards Robert
Posted on: 01 March 2004 by Goldstar
Apologies for the duplication.....pressed the wrong button!!!
Posted on: 01 March 2004 by greeny
quote:
Chris,

Only the Flatcap2 is designed to power two items simultaneously, all the others should only be used to power one. If you have your Supercap powering the NAC252 you shoudln't use one of the 5pin connections on the Supercap to also power a Headline - overall system performance will be compromised and long term you may cause damage if regulators are overly stressed.

Richard


I've seen this line several times from Naim, and I've got to admit it still confuses me as to why. These sockets from the Supercap provide 24v which is what the headline wants, Which regulators might be stressed? As far as I can see from examining the wiring in the Supercap at least one of these regulation boards is not used at all by the 52/252, and is only used by the 82.

I could of course be totally misreading the SUpercap wiring Confused

of course this isn't an issue for goldstar (or me) as we ONLY have 82's Frown
Posted on: 01 March 2004 by Goldstar
Hello Greeny,

There was a typo in my original post, I have a 52 and not an 82!

For me the convenience of going through the pre-amp and being able to select any source with the remote outweighs any slight difference in sound quality.

Has anyone comew across the naim mains leads with the improved connector at the equipment end?

Regards Robert
Posted on: 02 March 2004 by Rockingdoc
quote:
Originally posted by greeny:
I've seen this line several times from Naim, and I've got to admit it still confuses me as to why. These sockets from the Supercap provide 24v which is what the headline wants, Which regulators might be stressed? As far as I can see from examining the wiring in the Supercap at least one of these regulation boards is not used at all by the 52/252, and is only used by the 82.(



I'm sure Naim are aware that they could sell more Headlines to existing SCap owners if they didn't have to buy a new power supply. Me for one, as I could easily afford a Headline, but not keen to shell out for the Headline+Hicap in one hit.
So how could it be in their interest to give inaccurate information which makes buying a Headline less attractive?