ANOTHER bloody cyclist!

JAB,

You have no doubt seen the thread on cyclists and you would of read comments I have made. I hope you are ok and your bike was not damaged. it is dangerouse out there and I wish you happier cycling moving forward.

Don

Chaps

I have been driving a motorcycle without a break since 1965, number of accidents or incident = zero.

I have been driving a car without a break since 1969 and number of accidents or incidents = zero.

I have been cycling off and on for the last 5 years and number of accidents or incidents = zero.

The reason for my excellent track record is that I drive legally and defensively.

If I can do it, so can anyone else.

Regards

Mick

Mick,

Here you go again. How about a little empathy for JAB who has been wronged.

Probably a case of never had an accident seen many in my rear view mirror though.

I'll change my view, "pious tw*t".

Write to the pope Mick he can canonise you when he comes later in the year.

Don

I sympathise with no one. If you drive anything sensibly, you don't come off. it is as simple as that.

I am the living proof of that, I am a slow driver and have never been near an accident. I leave lots of space between myself and the car in front and as in the other thread, I do my best to stop other people speeding.

That is why I am safe and well regarded by insurance companies.

Regards

Mick

BigH47

Stick to the obituaries, you aren't much good at anything else.

Regards

Mick

PS I noticed you got in quick on the current one. Are you aiming for the Guiness book of records?

What are you wittering on about now?

Mick

Your quote "I sympathise with no one"

Says it all really.

Don

Don

Sympathy is dead easy to dish out, very easy indeed. It dosen't do much good.

Regards

Mick

i think my initial observation regarding mr parry is now borne out.

pretty much every cyclist comes off once in a while - why do you think we wear gloves? and sure, being clipped to the pedals contributes to that but cest la.

i too ride and drive defensively - but as pretty much every day demonstrates there's no shortage of idiots out there!

incidentally, i was virtually stationary at the time, no more than 1mph as pulling out of a small side street so by no means going like a nutter!

I used the word empathy it's totally diffent to sympathy. Thats why I care about people.

JAB

Is this your first accident ?

Regards

Mick

depends what you mean by accident. did i hit anyone today? no. did i come off the bike? yes.
have i come off before? yes. hit anyone? no.

i commute between 20-25 miles a day through some of the busiest streets in London.

Jab

If you are coming off regularly, then something needs to change.

Possibly a route change or whatever but if you continue as you are, you will come off again and again and next time it could be lethal.

Your choice!

Regards

Mick

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Originally posted by Don Hooper:
JAB,

...it is dangerouse out there....

Don

Actually, it isn't. On a fatality-per-hour of participation basis, cycling is about as risky as motoring. We would do well not to keep harping on about that hazards of cycling and just encourage more people to take it up. The more bikes, the better behaved the motorists are. They get used to us and expect us to be there.

In 30 years of cycling I have hit the deck 4 times. No major injuries. 2 were totally my own fault and the other two were maybe 50:50. For the enjoyment and benefits cycling gives me, I am way ahead.

Now. On your bike!

quote:

Originally posted by Mick Parry:

That is why I am safe and well regarded by insurance companies.

Regards

Mick

I'll bet you are. Don't you feel a bit stupid to have paid for all that insurance? Making a bet that you've worked hard all your life to lose? If the lack of accidents is due to your magnificant skills as a cyclist/motorist/motorcyclist; why have insurance at all?

i think twice every 3 years or so is probably not too bad really! i utilise a number of routes - there are few finer things than a blast through Regent's Park on a crisp morning with the sun shining!

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Originally posted by winkyincanada:

quote:

Originally posted by Mick Parry:

That is why I am safe and well regarded by insurance companies.

Regards

Mick

I'll bet you are. Don't you feel a bit stupid to have paid for all that insurance? Making a bet that you've worked hard all your life to lose? If the lack of accidents is due to your magnificant skills as a cyclist/motorist/motorcyclist; why have insurance at all?

Winky

If I had my way, people like me would have a 95% no claims bonus and the donuts (which is what most of them are) who have accidents should pay enormous premiums or even be taken off the road. We need safer roads and people with my track record have proven beyond doubt that we are safe.

The roads should belong to my sort.

Regards

Mick

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Originally posted by Mick Parry:

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Originally posted by winkyincanada:

quote:

Originally posted by Mick Parry:

That is why I am safe and well regarded by insurance companies.

Regards

Mick

I'll bet you are. Don't you feel a bit stupid to have paid for all that insurance? Making a bet that you've worked hard all your life to lose? If the lack of accidents is due to your magnificant skills as a cyclist/motorist/motorcyclist; why have insurance at all?

Winky

If I had my way, people like me would have a 95% no claims bonus and the donuts (which is what most of them are) who have accidents should pay enormous premiums or even be taken off the road. We need safer roads and people with my track record have proven beyond doubt that we are safe.

The roads should belong to my sort.

Regards

Mick

But insurance is DESIGNED to move funds from the careful to the careless (and the fraudulent). That's what it is there for. And to line the pockets insurance executives with massive bonuses for not paying out anyway. I choose not to insure very much at all.

Winky

Insurance is a legal requirement in the UK. I am compelled to subsidise donuts.

Regards

Mick

I agree with Mick.

About bloody time

quote:

Originally posted by winkyincanada:

quote:

Originally posted by Don Hooper:
JAB,

...it is dangerouse out there....

Don

Actually, it isn't. On a fatality-per-hour of participation basis, cycling is about as risky as motoring. We would do well not to keep harping on about that hazards of cycling and just encourage more people to take it up. The more bikes, the better behaved the motorists are. They get used to us and expect us to be there.

In 30 years of cycling I have hit the deck 4 times. No major injuries. 2 were totally my own fault and the other two were maybe 50:50. For the enjoyment and benefits cycling gives me, I am way ahead.

Now. On your bike!

If you are posting from Canada, there is a bit more room over there, AIUI.

i didn't post this seeking sympathy chaps. i've enjoyed a fair few sporting injuries in my time and, as a karate instructor of mine used to say, suck in the blood and keep on fighting!

my point was that there are plenty of idiots on the road - of all persuasions. but as many daft clists as i see daily (and i make no excuses for them, they irritate me as much as anyone,) my experience seems to be that far far more hazards are presented by pedestrians and drivers - as i saw today.

oh, and now i know mick is paying his premiums i can go ahead and cancel the insurance on my 300 bhp V8 safe in the knowledge that the MIB is fully funded!

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Originally posted by Mike Lacey:

quote:

Originally posted by winkyincanada:

quote:

Originally posted by Don Hooper:
JAB,

...it is dangerouse out there....

Don

Actually, it isn't. On a fatality-per-hour of participation basis, cycling is about as risky as motoring. We would do well not to keep harping on about that hazards of cycling and just encourage more people to take it up. The more bikes, the better behaved the motorists are. They get used to us and expect us to be there.

In 30 years of cycling I have hit the deck 4 times. No major injuries. 2 were totally my own fault and the other two were maybe 50:50. For the enjoyment and benefits cycling gives me, I am way ahead.

Now. On your bike!

If you are posting from Canada, there is a bit more room over there, AIUI.

My statistics are from the UK. And I lived and cycle commuted in Bristol for two years without issue (other than my own lack of due care in one instance). Driver attitudes to cyclists in the UK and Canada are both pretty good, even though road rules are very poorly observed by almost all users in both countries.

One thing that I found hard to get used to (never did) in the UK is the idiotic habit of parking on the wrong side of the street. To my knowledge, no other country in the world allows this. It just makes car movements so much less predictable and causes car drivers to pull out from parking spots into cyclists' paths whilst unsighted. It also very much interferes with pedestrians' subconscious visual clues about expected traffic direction and directly contributes to pedestrian accidents.Moving cars can come from the direction opposite to the way a parked car is facing - especially confusing in an environment with some one-way streets.

The very worst place to cycle that I have personally experienced remains Australia.

Here in Vancouver my commute is suburban/urban - not the great white North. I don't think it has much to do with space, really.