The Magic of the Concert Hall

Posted by: Tam on 06 April 2006

In another thread, the question was asked, 'what was the best concert you never went to'. In this thread I want to something more along the lines 'what was the best concert you ever went to', but a little more too.

I'll illustrate with an example. One of the best concerts I've ever been to was Daniel Harding conducting the Bremen Deutsche Khammerphilharmonie (there's a mouthful of a name). In the first place it was given at the Snape Maltings (the concert hall Britten built, or converted, near Aldeburgh) which for my money, especially for chamber orchestras, has one of the finest acoustics around. It was also Harding's penultimate performance with a music director (prior to a proms appearance). The first half contained some Rameau and the Sibelius violin concerto, neither of which blew me away. The second half was Beethoven's 7th symphony. Now, up until then, I didn't know the work particularly well and the performance had such energy it simply blew me away (I was on the edge of my seat the whole way through) and it is now one of my favourite works.

So far, so 'normal' - I went to a wonderful concert. The point is that in looking for CD recordings of the work I'm always hoping to recapture something of this magic and it never quite comes (even in the broadcast from the proms a few days later - but then I have never liked the RAH acoustic).

I could say the same thing about the Ring. While most accounts I have on disc musically outperform the wonderful Scottish Opera ring, the woodbird was transcendent and nothing on disc comes close to capturing that beauty.

I'm tempted to wonder if the beauty of these performances is in part down to the novelty of the music and that is something that will never entirely be recaptured (and that is certainly partly the case with Volkov/BBC Scottish and the 5th door of Bluebeard's castle).

Then again, not always. I was at concert of Mahler 3 at last year's Edinburgh festival given by Donald Runnicles (who is sadly vastly underrepresented on disc) and the BBC Scottish. I was doubly impressed because I think that 3 is one of the hardest Mahler works to do well but it was magical. So magical that the woman I was sat next to (who was among the most fidgety I have encountered) didn't bother me at all. The most wonderful moment came during the 3rd movement and the posthorn solo. I was in the dress circle, quite a way round (normally not ideal) and almost side on to the orchestra. The horn had been placed off stage outside the dress circle doors. In other words, the orchestra was on my right, the post horn on my left. The effect so gained was absolutely magical and, of course, totally impossible to replicate outside of the concert hall.

Fredrik in another thread mentions the joys of finding new things in concerts. I have touched on this. It is often the very thing of the programme I haven't gone for that moves me most. I was at a concert last year of Beethoven 1, the 5th concerto and Tippett's concerto for double string orchestra. Both bits of Beethoven were more than a little disappointing. I didn't know the Tippett at all I found it absolutely captivating, something I have never entirely captured on CD.

I suppose then, that the somewhat rambling point of this thread is to say how wonderful a thing concerts are, how the hi-fi will only ever be something of a poor substitute for the magic that the concert hall can at its best provide and to ask to what extent we can realistically hope to capture that magic in our living rooms.

regards, Tam
Posted on: 06 April 2006 by Wolf
Heya Tam, how ya doing?

One concert that I enjoyed going to was Phillip Glass' A Thousand Airplanes on the Roof. I'd heard his music and was interested, but not seen an avant guarde production. On stage as his music pulsed a man was talking about living in New York with rear screen projections of images of the city. At one point he was hopping from tops of skyscrapers and walking up steps of brownstones as a little person on big scale images, yet they must hhave been altered as you kept feeling something was looking at you tho you couldn't pin a shape or face to images of the city. Very Surreal as he talked about a bad blind date experience then, as he got home and opened his door to his Browntsone he was pulled thru space in an alien abduction aboard a spaceship and a small steel ball pressed thru his nostril into his brain to record his thoughts. Of course by this time Glass and orchestrated an intense climax with his minimalist music, edge of your seat drama.

Then back in NY he'd lost 5 days of his life and didn't know what was happening but kept hearing a voice, that it's better to forget than to remember in his head. time to rlelax, interesting images again and then a second abduction begins and the music pulses and drives you to the edge of your seat as he remembers from before. then he's depostied back on earth with his life ruined, can't remember what day it is, what he was doing, or if the events were real. Then it ended.

One of the most thrilling things I've experienced on stage.

Then there was Pilobolus Dance Theater in the peak of their career in the early 80s, but that's another posting, you have to see them to believe it. Very psychedelic.
Posted on: 07 April 2006 by Tam
Sounds wonderful Glenn!

One of the finest opera productions I ever saw (indeed, the first good opera I ever saw) was a Glyndebourne production of Makropulos. The staging was wonderfully clever in that they had most of the furniture on a 2 meter wide track that ran the width of the stage and which moved very gradually along thoughout the performance (the whole opera being about time being slowed, in a sense, it worked wonderfully). I would go on to list a number of wonderful things I've seen at the National Theatre (including their production of His Dark Materials, which was just about the most jaw-dropping thing I've ever seen on stage) but it wouldn't have a huge amount to do with music.

When I have tried opera on DVD I've never got on too massively well with it and it never holds me in the way it does in the theatre (though the Boulez Rheingold wasn't bad), I suspect a DVD of your Glass experience would probably be equally futile in recapturing things.

regards, Tam
Posted on: 07 April 2006 by u5227470736789439
Nothing is like a real concert. Fredrik
Posted on: 07 April 2006 by arf005
Tam,
you ramble well....
I have a vague happy memory of my first concert I was taken to, at the Usher Hall when I were a lad (so to speak) and a young one at that! My bassoon teacher at the time was playing in the SNO or SCO I can't really remember, but I can still remember the feeling I got having the music rise up and surround me up in the circle where we were seated. It was magical....
...sounds daft but I can't even remember what we went to hear, all I remember is the way it made me fell.....I also remember the ice cream at the interval.....but then I was very young at the time....

And who'd have guessed I'd be lucky enough to play in that same venue!!
Our school (GHS) put on it's Christmas Concert there, which I was lucky enough to be involved in two years running....even had to get up and present flowers to the female conductor (music teacher) one year, very embarrassing....serves me right for getting musician of the year - for a bassoon, how mad can you get!!

But, nothing can describe the buzz (although I wouldn't know what that was at that age) I got playing with a decent orchestra and choir in such a venue....amazing....

Shame we had to move to Dundee when I was in second year, it all went downhill from there, in more ways than one.....

Cheers,
Ali
Posted on: 08 April 2006 by Tam
Fredrik - I suppose in my rambling way that's what I was trying to say! Winker

Ali - I'm very fond of the Usher Hall (it's probably the hall I've been to most and has one of my favourite acoustics). In my earliest days attending there (for things like Handel's Saul, conducted by Mackerras shortly after his problems with his arm - not that you'd have known it listen) there were problems with the ceiling which was covered in netting to guard against falling masonry! Fortunately they've restored that now (and the organ - though they under use it).

regards, Tam
Posted on: 08 April 2006 by u5227470736789439
Dear Tam,

Not fair! All I was doing was sticking my head over the parapet for a second! Before too long, I shall try to describe at least three concerts where my feet did not touch the floor on my way out! Fredrik
Posted on: 08 April 2006 by Tam
Dear Fredrik,

I know. But I also know I can go on a little from time to time Smile

I cannot wait to hear about your 3 concerts!

regards, Tam
Posted on: 13 April 2006 by Tam
I thought I'd bring this thread back up to the top (because I'm sure there are more than three of us who've had magical experiences in the concert hall - so come on).

It occurs to me that I have not mentioned a single Mackerras concert (and what would one of my threads be without a mention of him). Aside from the Brahms I've mentioned over in the two Brahms threads (and which I won't repeat), I attended a magical concert last November for his 80th birthday where he played Fidelio (in concert) with the SCO and Christine Brewer in the title role (and magnificent she was too). Aside from some magical playing (and some wonderful singing from the SCO Chorus), a real highlight came in the closing moments, when Mackerras played the Leonora 3 overture between the final two scenes (following Mahler's practice), given his age and the how much they'd already played, the energy with which it was played was all the more stunning and exciting. Total magic.

One of my favourite orchestras is the Cleveland. This is based almost entirely on the three wonderful concerts they gave at the 2004 festival (though I'm also fond of many of their discs). It was the first, however, that was particularly special (not least as I'd never before, nor for that matter since, seen an orchestra play with such incredible precision). Welser-Most had arranged things in such a way as to lend drama with the basses raised and in a row across the back of the orchestra (I'm sure there's a technical term from when a group of instruments is spread like this, rather than being all on one side - Fredrik?). Anyway, this had the effect that they seemed to drive the orchestra forward in a very exciting way (particularly given they all seemed to bow at exactly the same time - one of the things about this orchestra is that it is about as much visual as it is audio). They started off with the William Tell overture. Now, normally I don't care for this at all and write it off as a hackneyed, classic fm tune. Played like this it's different. They followed with Haydn 100, which I didn't know at all and is now one of my favourites. I tend to think that Haydn symphonies are especially easy to do badly (that's not to say they're not great pieces of music - they are wonderful, just easily messed), but with the energy and precision of this orchestra it was breathtaking. The finished with Shostakovich 15, another work unknown to me. It's a slightly odd work in that it's filled with quotes, both from his own works and from everything from the William Tell to Gotterdammerung. It was superb (I've never heard a CD account that quite seems to do it justice n the same way - ditto, in fact, the Haydn, though Bernstein does okay. I am currently awaiting Jochum's London symphonies which I spied at bargain price so it will be good to hear how he does.)

So, come on, share you're experiences of concert hall magic.

regards, Tam
Posted on: 13 April 2006 by erik scothron
A totally knockout performance of 'Le Nozze di Figaro' by the Glyndebourne Touring Opera at Glyndebourne which was better than the Glyndebourne Festival production.

The most beautiful sound I have ever heard was the choir of Kings College Cambridge performing Allegri's Misere in the King's College Chapel. I swear Some of the notes were suspended in the vaulted magnificense for up to 15 seconds.

Erik