This didn't happen when I was at school...

Posted by: Exiled Highlander on 18 December 2008

I've been working away from home in London for the last 11 weeks and last week my daughters High School in Naperville, IL (where she is a Senior or 6th Year equivalent in the UK) was placed on lockdown after a pupil was reported as having been seen with a handgun. We had talked about it but she hadn't given me all the details and last night she sent me this email giving me themore insight into what went on.....ignore the semi text speak in the message...

hey, so i thought i would tell you what happened at my school on Wednesday of last week. so school starts at 7:25am and lets say 10-15 mins after school started, in my first class an announcement came on saying "teachers i am issuing a hard lock down" (hard lockdown: classroom lights out, door locked and sit against a wall out of sight of any window or door). so the first hour we were all freaking out including the teacher, and then it came to the 2nd hour of the lockdown and we had started to relax a little bit, 3rd hour into it and we were updated over an email saying that they were still looking for the person and all the kids were texting their friends and parents allow we were really only supposed to text parents so i had texted mum telling her " we are in a lockdown situation but we are fine". so my friend Corrine who was in the orchestra room had texted me saying that they were searching black males because that’s what the police had narrowed the search to. i must add that because of it being a hard lockdown we weren't allowed to leave the room not even to go to the bathroom. 4th hour came and the police finally came into our room which is the closest to the front door, and they came in without knocking and we freaked out cuz we thought it may be the intruder and they turned on the lights and 3 policemen came in and had guns out and pointed towards everyone and said " everyone hands up and don't move. hands out at your side and don’t talk". all the policemen were male, 2 of which searched everyone’s back packs (and no they didn’t find anything in mine hahaha), and then we were all searched including our teacher. After the 5th hour into this whole ordeal the police came back and took a group to the bathroom but only people that were in a dire emergency. i was one. So originally we were going to go to the main office bathroom, however, they had 3 sniffer dogs around and so we had to follow an officer to the nearest bathroom. he said " i don’t want you to feel that your privacy is being obstructed but i need to keep the main door open so that we know who is in there so that no one else could go in" so after we were all done we were escorted back to our classroom. within half and hour of coming back the whole situation was done. i feel as though i was in a movie. it didn’t feel real what so ever but it was definitley an eye opening experience. and the officer that had escorted us to the bathroom told us that he was going to go out first and see if there was any dogs on the loose and there wasn’t but he said that if we just so happen to meet up with a sniff dog, STAND STILL, DO NOT MOVE, AND DO NOT SAY A WORD OR SCREAM, cuz sniff dogs are trained to go after someone who runs away. In the end we were told that the kid that had this weapon was a sophomore and he had a BB gun. So i just thought that i would share that with you and it was for sure an eye opening experience. Talk to you later, Love Ruth

A little sobering insight into modern day school life....

Jim
Posted on: 18 December 2008 by Jaseamondo
I think i would have freaked if my daughter had text me during something like that. your wife must have been very worried. glad to hear all was fine in the end.

Jase.
Posted on: 18 December 2008 by Exiled Highlander
Jase

Life at Fernielea Primary and Aberdeen Grammar was dull in comparsion! :-)

Cheers

Jim
Posted on: 18 December 2008 by 555
An interesting insight Jim.
Your daughter sounds like a nice sensible person. Smile
Posted on: 18 December 2008 by Jaseamondo
quote:
Originally posted by Exiled Highlander:
Jase

Life at Fernielea Primary and Aberdeen Grammar was dull in comparsion! :-)

Cheers

Jim


I don't believe that for a minute Winker
Posted on: 18 December 2008 by Exiled Highlander
Jase

The odd stink bomb from the Joke Factory in John Street (long gone) was as exciting as it got....oh, apart from Ixxx xxxxx being caught with 20 odd tabs of LSD in 3rd year....

Cheers

Jim
Posted on: 18 December 2008 by Jaseamondo
Jim,

A lot of fairly wild stuff happened at my schools,cars stolen ,fights with teachers,sex,drugs and sausage rolls .(nothing on the scale of what happened at your daughters though) but apparently i was oblivious to most of it. Never saw a thing. I was not looking for it either though. Things are a bit different now ,I imagine a lot more so stateside. Glad i don't need to do it now.
Posted on: 18 December 2008 by mikeeschman
!!!
Posted on: 18 December 2008 by 555
quote:
Never saw a thing.

What's your source of info'?
Posted on: 18 December 2008 by JamieWednesday
That is just unbelievable. Incredible!!!! She was in school at 7.25 a.m.?
Posted on: 18 December 2008 by Jaseamondo
quote:
Originally posted by 555:
quote:
Never saw a thing.

What's your source of info'?


lol. no honest it wasn't me. A lot of the things i heard of years later. I can provide witnesses if you like your honor.
Posted on: 18 December 2008 by gary1 (US)
Jim, as you are aware Naperville is routinely mentioned as the best place to live in the US. I lived there for 1 year and you would not believe the s--- that goes on there with the kids. And this from #1.

Thankfully, everyone's ok and it was a "false alarm." That kid and his parents need their heads examined. It does start at home with parenting or lack of unfortunately.
Posted on: 19 December 2008 by Roy T
quote:
Originally posted by gary1 (US):
Jim, as you are aware Naperville is routinely mentioned as the best place to live in the US. I lived there for 1 year and you would not believe the s--- that goes on there with the kids. And this from #1.

Naperville - you be the judge.
Posted on: 19 December 2008 by Exiled Highlander
jamie

Iknow....she was being lazy that day....normally she is there earlier!

Gary

The locals don't like me calling it Dullsville....number 1? I don't think so.

Cheers

Jim
Posted on: 19 December 2008 by gary1 (US)
Hey Jim, I didn't like it there myself except for walking along the riverfront and the downtown area. Used to have some good restaurants, but it's still a good place to browse.

I also think it's boring there and a terrible location since it's landlocked and access to either 88/55 can be really difficult. I never saw the attraction, but it does get great write-ups from the press and the "best towns" to live in.
Posted on: 19 December 2008 by Patrick F
ah we used to have drug dogs in our school at least once a month for locker searches what dumbass would put drugs in there locker. leave it in your car. Winker
Posted on: 19 December 2008 by joe90
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everyone hands up and don't move


How is this possible?
Posted on: 19 December 2008 by Exiled Highlander
Joe

Good point......I'll make sure Naperville PD put their officers through a literacy course!

Jim
Posted on: 19 December 2008 by joe90
My father was a street cop for 25 years and he probably wouldn't advise scaring to death all those kids in that way.

There's being a cop, and there's good policing.

That's what they need as far as courses go.
Posted on: 20 December 2008 by Exiled Highlander
joe

Unless your father was a cop in the US then you can't draw parallels. This happened in a country that spawned Columbine, Northern Ilinois, West Viginia etc. Think about the situation for a moment....there had been reports of a kid with a gun and they were carrying out classroom to classroom searches. I guess they could have walked in be said something like "do any of you kids hve a gun? If you do please hand it over and don't shoot anyone"

Horses for courses and you cant impose UK policing approaches on the US.

Jim
Posted on: 20 December 2008 by BigH47
quote:
Horses for courses and you cant impose UK policing approaches on the US.



A Brazilian family may disagree.
Posted on: 20 December 2008 by Exiled Highlander
I agree......and the Brazilian police forces are beyond reproach as well....

Jim
Posted on: 21 December 2008 by 555
quote:
everyone hands up and don't move

quote:
How is this possible?

By doing the opposite of putting your hands down & moving. Roll Eyes
quote:
lol. no honest it wasn't me.

There speaks a man with a guilty conscience! Call for the prisoner wagon!



Winker Big Grin
Posted on: 21 December 2008 by joe90
quote:
joe

Unless your father was a cop in the US then you can't draw parallels. This happened in a country that spawned Columbine, Northern Ilinois, West Viginia etc. Think about the situation for a moment....there had been reports of a kid with a gun and they were carrying out classroom to classroom searches. I guess they could have walked in be said something like "do any of you kids hve a gun? If you do please hand it over and don't shoot anyone"

Horses for courses and you cant impose UK policing approaches on the US.

Jim


Jim, I see your point.

However, not making a situation worse is a skill that can be applied anywhere at any time by a considered approach to a problem.

From the news it seems that US policing methods don't work that well, so perhaps it is worthwhile considering some different approaches to add to the usual methods?

Remember the goal is to keep everyone as intact as possible, not just do something because 'that's the way we do it and that's the way we do it.'
Posted on: 22 December 2008 by Rockingdoc
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Originally posted by gary1 (US):
That kid and his parents need their heads examined. .


'cos if he tried it in a UK tube station he'd be dead with seven bullets in him
Posted on: 22 December 2008 by 555
Appearing to be a plumber going to work can have similar consequences ...