Have Apple Mac and Naim DAC, what's next?

Well its doing something because the music is quieter! Also I only have optical for audio os if it did not work I would have heard nothing I guess.

I am holding out for the new audio system in XBMC which is under development and promises bit perfect output. This costs all of free, which is my kind of price.

Sorry but Pure Music gave no appreciable difference for me apart from volume, so to my mind £90 uk quids could be better spent elsewhere.

Yes these things have to be tried in your own rig. I can't see any reference to volume probs with PM users on the CA forum, but without directly attached music and asynch DAC connection I wouldn't bother with it, and put the money toward other aspects.

What DAC are you using?

Joe

Straight into a supernait.

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Originally posted by garyi:
Straight into a supernait.

That's where I'd put the £90.

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Originally posted by garyi:

Sorry but Pure Music gave no appreciable difference for me apart from volume, so to my mind £90 uk quids could be better spent elsewhere.

PM made no difference to me either, apart from making iTunes unreliable. I really wanted it work.

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Originally posted by winkyincanada:

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Originally posted by garyi:

Sorry but Pure Music gave no appreciable difference for me apart from volume, so to my mind £90 uk quids could be better spent elsewhere.

PM made no difference to me either, apart from making iTunes unreliable. I really wanted it work.

Which DAC/connection method/storage Winky? As you were, just seen it's another optical to SN. Interesting. I don't think PM supports optical, I may be wrong. I know of several forum members who are happily using PM or Amarra but they all have asynch connections to their DACs none of which are SNs.

Joe

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Originally posted by Joe Bibb:

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Originally posted by winkyincanada:

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Originally posted by garyi:

Sorry but Pure Music gave no appreciable difference for me apart from volume, so to my mind £90 uk quids could be better spent elsewhere.

PM made no difference to me either, apart from making iTunes unreliable. I really wanted it work.

Which DAC/connection method/storage Winky? As you were, just seen it's another optical to SN. Interesting. I don't think PM supports optical, I may be wrong. I know of several forum members who are happily using PM or Amarra but they all have asynch connections to their DACs none of which are SNs.

Joe

Yep, SPDIF via Toslink to the SN. I Don't see what that would have to do with it, though. Not bothered to try again.

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Originally posted by Joe Bibb:

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Originally posted by winkyincanada:

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Originally posted by garyi:

Sorry but Pure Music gave no appreciable difference for me apart from volume, so to my mind £90 uk quids could be better spent elsewhere.

PM made no difference to me either, apart from making iTunes unreliable. I really wanted it work.

Which DAC/connection method/storage Winky? As you were, just seen it's another optical to SN. Interesting. I don't think PM supports optical, I may be wrong. I know of several forum members who are happily using PM or Amarra but they all have asynch connections to their DACs none of which are SNs.

Joe

Pure Music supports all built-in analog or digital audio inputs and outputs (from Pure Music website).

Eloise

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Originally posted by winkyincanada:

Yep, SPDIF via Toslink to the SN. I Don't see what that would have to do with it, though. Not bothered to try again.

Don't blame you, it wouldn't be my priority either.

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Originally posted by Eloise:

Pure Music supports all built-in analog or digital audio inputs and outputs (from Pure Music website).

Eloise

Have you tried PM or Amarra?

Joe

I found PM very frustrating at various times until I better understood what I was doing and I still find it's setup tricky. Couple of things relevant to this discussion -

- PM will be quieter until you set the level to zero on the slider on the far left.
- pm will do gapless playback if the album or tracks are labeled (and you can change that setting) as such and you are using memory play
- I am using an external hard drive and I found memory play was necessary for the drive to play ball. I think it sounds better that way anyway.
- I have found that sOme of the setting in PM become unavailable after a while with the trial version. I do not know why but will be taking a risk that they will return when I pay for the full version. It is a small risk but I like the sound it gives and the memory play function and the ability to keep using the iPod interface
- At one level it is silly but you pay for PM to not eq the sound which iTunes insists on doing. Apple are a pain in that regard.

Am finally about the toslink, my research shows it on last years model but missing from this years but with the sd slot added, as indicated on the diagram I posted, unless side panel picture is wrong. On the same image for the previous model they clearly indicate the multi connector. I would just check with a dealer before assuming toslink is still included.

It has to be going through some sort of eq? If it was clean perfect bit audio output sirely there would be no volume slider?

When itunes is set to max volume its apprently bit perfect output (Not saying this is so but thats what they say)

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When itunes is set to max volume its apprently bit perfect output (Not saying this is so but thats what they say)

Same as PM - set at 0 - bit perfect output.

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Am finally about the toslink, my research shows it on last years model but missing from this years but with the sd slot added, as indicated on the diagram I posted, unless side panel picture is wrong. On the same image for the previous model they clearly indicate the multi connector. I would just check with a dealer before assuming toslink is still included.

I have a current 2010 MacBook Pro (with an SD slot) and the headphone socket is also a mini-TOS.

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Am finally about the toslink, my research shows it on last years model but missing from this years but with the sd slot added, as indicated on the diagram I posted, unless side panel picture is wrong. On the same image for the previous model they clearly indicate the multi connector. I would just check with a dealer before assuming toslink is still included.

I have a current 2010 MacBook Pro (with an SD slot) and the headphone socket is also a mini-TOS.

Just to confirm, current listed spec (apple.com/uk) is

Audio
* Stereo speakers with subwoofers
* Omnidirectional microphone (located under left speaker grille)
* Audio line in minijack (digital/analog)
* Audio line out/headphone minijack (digital/analog)
* Support for Apple iPhone headset with microphone

Eloise

All mac laptops/minis/imacs and towers have digital audio in and and out.

Thats good to know. They should correct their side panel diagram to avoid confusing those comparing it to last years.

Its clear enough ion the tech specs available on the apple website

OK....I've read through this thread, and I think I might know my next step....

Weiss INT202 vs. M2Tech Evo?

Do they do the same thing? Am I on the right track?

Yes sort of, the Weiss converts from firewire and the m2tech from USB.

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Originally posted by Ballan:
OK....I've read through this thread, and I think I might know my next step....

Weiss INT202 vs. M2Tech Evo?

Do they do the same thing? Am I on the right track?

Other devices which at similar include Halide Bridge USB to SPDIF though limited to 24/96 (the others do upto 24/192) and WaveLength's WaveLink. If you're only using CD resolution 16/44.1 then Ar-t's Legato Link is reportedly very good also.

Eloise

Isn't the Weiss a lot more expensive than the M2Tech Evo? I take it neither device is actually a DAC in its own right, just an 'adaptor' of sorts?

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Originally posted by JonR:
Isn't the Weiss a lot more expensive than the M2Tech Evo? I take it neither device is actually a DAC in its own right, just an 'adaptor' of sorts?

Yes, the Weiss INT202 is more expensive than the M2Tech Evo (Weiss £930; Evo £450 IIRC).

As you say, neither are DACs, they simply provide a SPDIF or AES (or various other types in case of the EVO) connection to another DAC.

Eloise

Thanks

I am waiting for my Evo, it will be £275, I hope it will be a step up from the hiface.