More Talked About Than Listened To
Posted by: JRHardee on 25 December 2006
The world has seen a number of highly regarded musicians who are just a bit...too far out there. They get lots of respect, but not that much air time. For me, John Coltrane comes to mind--brilliant, but not quite my cuppa. I suspect that a lot of people who might drop his name in a conversation feel the same.
This may be the opposite of the Guilty Pleasures 3 thread--people you ought to like, but don't.
Who else?
This may be the opposite of the Guilty Pleasures 3 thread--people you ought to like, but don't.
Who else?
Posted on: 04 January 2007 by Shayman
The Doors?
Don't get me wrong, I quite like them but very few people I've met know anything other than 'Light My Fire'.
We went to Paris recently and visited Pere Lachaise cemetery where old Jim lies (far from in peace). Crowds of MOR tourists were queueing up to have their photos taken next to/on his grave but are they really that popular to listen to amongst this sort of person?
Jonathan
Don't get me wrong, I quite like them but very few people I've met know anything other than 'Light My Fire'.
We went to Paris recently and visited Pere Lachaise cemetery where old Jim lies (far from in peace). Crowds of MOR tourists were queueing up to have their photos taken next to/on his grave but are they really that popular to listen to amongst this sort of person?
Jonathan
Posted on: 04 January 2007 by woodface
Hi Fred, I think Crescent is great, but not the best starting point, as it does contain some atonal squawking. Agree totally on the others, he also did a ballads album with a really great singer (who I cannot remember the name of..unforgivable), this contained the best version of 'lush life' I have ever heard. Hopefully someone will put me out of my misery!
Posted on: 04 January 2007 by Fulcrum
Originally posted by Shayman:
The Doors?
Don't get me wrong, I quite like them but very few people I've met know anything other than 'Light My Fire'.
I'm with you on that one. My girlfriend is/was an avid Doors fan. About a year ago we bought our first house together. Our new neighbour popped round to introduce himself. turns out he's a Jim Morrison obsessive, & when my girlfriend told him she liked the Doors he seemed to 'latch on' to this. Cue turning up on our doorstep with newly aquired Doors memorabilia expecting to be invited in, rumours about him locally, my girlfriend being a bit freaked out by a couple of 'chance encounters'. Mid to late forties, lives with his mum (no offence to anyone reading who still lives with their mum!), tells silly little lies. The result? My girlfriend hasn't listened to the Doors sinced we moved in together. (In the house or in her car -& this is a band she loved!)
I still don't see what the fuss is about with them as a band!
The Doors?
Don't get me wrong, I quite like them but very few people I've met know anything other than 'Light My Fire'.
I'm with you on that one. My girlfriend is/was an avid Doors fan. About a year ago we bought our first house together. Our new neighbour popped round to introduce himself. turns out he's a Jim Morrison obsessive, & when my girlfriend told him she liked the Doors he seemed to 'latch on' to this. Cue turning up on our doorstep with newly aquired Doors memorabilia expecting to be invited in, rumours about him locally, my girlfriend being a bit freaked out by a couple of 'chance encounters'. Mid to late forties, lives with his mum (no offence to anyone reading who still lives with their mum!), tells silly little lies. The result? My girlfriend hasn't listened to the Doors sinced we moved in together. (In the house or in her car -& this is a band she loved!)
I still don't see what the fuss is about with them as a band!
Posted on: 04 January 2007 by Diccus62
I thought Showaddywaddy were a bit over hyped, though not so much these days. I think one of the band members (Russell Fields)has a b & b in Seahouses, Northumberland.
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Posted on: 04 January 2007 by fred simon
quote:Originally posted by woodface:
Hi Fred, I think Crescent is great, but not the best starting point, as it does contain some atonal squawking. Agree totally on the others, he also did a ballads album with a really great singer (who I cannot remember the name of..unforgivable), this contained the best version of 'lush life' I have ever heard. Hopefully someone will put me out of my misery!
Johnny Hartman is the singer. Here's the album, and it's great:
John Coltrane & Johnny Hartman

By the way, there may be a few passages on Crescent which are more challenging, but there's no "atonal squawking." Although it may not be the ideal Coltrane album to start with, it's certainly nothing like Ascension ... now there's some atonal squawking!
Fred
Posted on: 04 January 2007 by ewemon
For me it has to be John Coltrane. Every jazz buff I know tells me of his brilliance but I have hardly ever seen an album of his in someones collection.
Posted on: 04 January 2007 by Rasher
The missus
Posted on: 04 January 2007 by DeltaSigma
Personally, while his "Ballads" and "Crescent" albums are quite enjoyable, they tend to become somewhat boring after they have been heard a few times. The more improvisational material he produced later in his career is "deeper" and provides (in my experience at least) more lasting enjoyment.
Posted on: 04 January 2007 by JohanR
Love.
JohanR
JohanR
Posted on: 05 January 2007 by fred simon
quote:Originally posted by JohanR:
Love.
Johan, if you're referring to the new Beatles album LOVE, I suppose that some folks are talking about it more than listening to it, but certainly not at my house or in my circle of friends ... we're talking about it and listening to it constantly. Can't get enough!
However, if you're referring to the emotion "love," then I'd agree.

Fred
Posted on: 05 January 2007 by Guido Fawkes
I think opinon on Love Forever Changes then it's Alone Again Or - but it's always a good record to play, still Live and Let Live.