Yamaha AvantGrand
Posted by: mikeeschman on 10 September 2009
"The World's first Virtual Acoustic Piano ..."
Next Tuesday night, I'm going to hear one of these in person.
Anyone else on the forum hear of this?
Will report back next week.
Next Tuesday night, I'm going to hear one of these in person.
Anyone else on the forum hear of this?
Will report back next week.
Posted on: 10 September 2009 by u5227470736789439
Are they saying that they have made the first electronic piano? Or the first that actually sounds real?
If they say this they are not only wrong to make the claim, but companies like Roland have been making very good electronic keyboards with digital sampling representaions of pianos [of various styles at the turn of a selecting dial], the harpsichord [though strangely a harpsichord sound with touch sensitive dynamic!] and then the host of artificial keyboard sounds - hundreds of them - for many years now.
Well the first Roland I saw [at the house of a music teacher friend of mine] was about 16 years ago, so I wonder what makes a company claim to make the first virtual acoustic piano?
Is it something other than a good synthesiser?
I shall be interested to read what you think, dear Mike.
ATB from George
If they say this they are not only wrong to make the claim, but companies like Roland have been making very good electronic keyboards with digital sampling representaions of pianos [of various styles at the turn of a selecting dial], the harpsichord [though strangely a harpsichord sound with touch sensitive dynamic!] and then the host of artificial keyboard sounds - hundreds of them - for many years now.
Well the first Roland I saw [at the house of a music teacher friend of mine] was about 16 years ago, so I wonder what makes a company claim to make the first virtual acoustic piano?
Is it something other than a good synthesiser?
I shall be interested to read what you think, dear Mike.
ATB from George
Posted on: 10 September 2009 by Chief Chirpa
I think its USP is not so much its sound, but that the player has more of a feel for what they're playing, thanks to its in-built resonators.
I'd be interested to know what you think of it Mike, but I think it might be too perfect and too unreal for me, if you know what I mean. I expect I'd still rather have a Steinway baby grand.
I'd be interested to know what you think of it Mike, but I think it might be too perfect and too unreal for me, if you know what I mean. I expect I'd still rather have a Steinway baby grand.
Posted on: 10 September 2009 by mikeeschman
Or a 6' Mason & Hamlin like ours ... :-)
I'll let you know what I hear. Maybe some WTC?
At any rate, I couldn't pass it up. Instruments are addictive.
I'll let you know what I hear. Maybe some WTC?
At any rate, I couldn't pass it up. Instruments are addictive.
Posted on: 10 September 2009 by fred simon
I haven't played one, but my hunch is that it's a great development for digital pianos ... the idea of incorporating the physical vibrations into the player/instrument feedback loop.
But it still has to produce the sound and vibrations with electronic amplification, so by definition it cannot be an acoustic piano.
I'll bet it sounds and feels great ... for a digital piano. But even without having played one I'd bet the farm that it still can't compare with even the best Yamaha acoustic concert grand (and I've played and recorded on some very good ones), much less the best Steinway acoustic concert grands.
If I'm wrong, I'll eat my Steinway.
All best,
Fred
Posted on: 15 September 2009 by mikeeschman
OK.
Fred Simon called it on the head. If it had been a horse, he'd be in the money :-)
Fred Simon called it on the head. If it had been a horse, he'd be in the money :-)