Ginger Baker

After Cream and Blind Faith, Baker formed a big group called Airforce which released one double album and one single album both of which were passable but uninspiring.

He also did an album called Stradivarious I think and later did albums of an African hue.Later still he did some work with Laswell which were different from Going Back Home.

The album BBM which was Baker, Bruce and (Gary)Moore was to all intents and puposes a Cream pastiche which I have to say was very well done.

Agree. The post Blind Faith stuff was pretty dire, but that made the BBM album all the more surprising. Not all of it is good, but there is some good, driving stuff on there.

He played on the second Masters of Reality album. The album itself is okay - no where near as good as the first (which is fantastic) but does have a very good Baker track called T.U.S.A. - about 'the inability of the Yanks to make a good cup of tea'.

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Originally posted by Nick Lees:
Agree. The post Blind Faith stuff was pretty dire, but that made the BBM album all the more surprising. Not all of it is good, but there is some good, driving stuff on there.

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I had that one, like a couple of cuts, but not enough to keep it in the collection
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Peter

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I have the Ginger Baker Trio'd 'Going back home', with Vharlie haden and Bill Frissell. Nice tunes, and good sound. I love the drum patterns that Ginger puts on the Disc and the bass from Charlie Haden, but Bill Frissel's guitar ... get's on my nerves after a while.

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Ginger Baker's drumming gets on my nerves after a while. I don't care for his playing on that album.

I believe the trio put out another album after Going Back Home. If you liked GBH, you may like the follow-up but the name eludes me right now.

On the subject of jazz drumming, have you heard Joey Baron's stick work on the Masada albums? Glorious!

Hockman

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Does anybody know of a better showcase for Ginger Baker.

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His two best albums are PIL's Album (or CD if that's your format) and Horses And Trees. Baker's drums were recorded in a big barn and the ambiance of the recordings are huge sounding(they were recorded simultaneously). There are no credits on the PIL record but Baker plays all the drums on it with Steve Vai on guitar, Jonas Hellborg on bass, and various other musicians. Both these records are produced (and written) by Bill Laswell. Ginger Baker appears on several other Laswell records as a guest but these are not showcases for Baker.

Ron The Mon,
Needle-Freak

Hock'n'Ron,

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On the subject of jazz drumming, have you heard Joey Baron's stick work on the Masada albums? Glorious!

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I'm beginning to appreciate fine drummers, I particularly like Roy Haynes. I'll look into Joey baron and Masada. Which album is the most accesible, I notice that it is Joel Zorns group. My previous encounter with Joel Zorn, I didn't get.

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His two best albums are PIL's Album (or CD if that's your format) and Horses And Trees. Baker's drums were recorded in a big barn and the ambiance of the recordings are huge sounding(they were recorded simultaneously). There are no credits on the PIL record but Baker plays all the drums on it with Steve Vai on guitar, Jonas Hellborg on bass, and various other musicians.

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Thanks for that tip, those albums may be available on vinyl. I buy many Cds, I can store CDs more easily than Lps at the moment, but still I have a constantly evolving Lp collection at about 500 LPs.

Peter

[This message was edited by Peter Stockwell on TUESDAY 23 July 2002 at 08:27.]

Peter:

John Zorn is an acquired taste! But if you like jazz and are attuned to Ornette Coleman's classic quartet for example, the Masada performances are not inaccessible. Think jewish kelzmer music meets jazz!

I especially recommend Live at Jerusalem, or Live at Sevilla, both with fine performances and great sound to boot. The studio Masadas 1-4 are pretty good as well.

Baron's own albums are less interesting.

Hockman

He also played on the album 'Levitation' by Hawkwind..

Worth checking out if you like Space Prog-Rock.. or should that be Spaced-Out Prog-Rock ?

Not really a Ginger showpiece album though..

-A-