WiFi on UK Trains

Posted by: Richard AV on 29 June 2005

Does anyone know if there are any UK trains that offer wireless internet access on board the train? I make journeys from Kent to Manchester a few times a year with the next journey in October and would like to use my (upcoming) iBook. I have seen that Virgin have it in the business lounge at the station but no on board. Am I thinking too far into the future?
Posted on: 29 June 2005 by Berlin Fritz
The Parry-Potter Express I suspect ? Cool
Posted on: 29 June 2005 by garyi
I don't see how they could do that.

Perhaps you could use your mobile phone if it has bluetooth.
Posted on: 29 June 2005 by Berlin Fritz
It's the trackin matey Big Grin
Posted on: 29 June 2005 by Richard AV
quote:
Originally posted by garyi:
I don't see how they could do that.

Perhaps you could use your mobile phone if it has bluetooth.


Yes, my mobile has bluetooth. Excuse the ignorant question but how would I go about doing that? How does the phone know what number to dial?
Posted on: 29 June 2005 by Berlin Fritz
I'd personally (unless it's a business account) find out from somebody who's actually used it, and had their bills afterwards too ! Big Grin


Fritz Von Lots of nice bullshit suprises lurking in them their figures Big Grin
Posted on: 29 June 2005 by garyi
Mr fritz has a point it can be expensive, but basically you phone your provider about obtaining a gateway for this. The mac will see your bluetooth device and offer it up to use for internet.

I have never done this but presume it will be as slow or slower than dial up so perhaps you will just have to take the journy and stay of the net for an hour Winker
Posted on: 29 June 2005 by pingu
GNER (east coast mainline) offer wifi for free in 1st class and wifi by the hour in 2nd class.

Works too by the way

http://www.gner.co.uk/GNER/wi-fi/
Posted on: 29 June 2005 by Martin Hull
I use my laptop with a Nokia phone for internet access when I am away from home.

I use a bluetooth connection between my laptop and phone and then a GPRS connection to the internet. This can give a speed of upto 34Kbs which is just below landline dial-up speed. Its fine for e-mail, instant messaging and a little web surfing.

The best way to get it all hooked up is to talk to your mobile network and ask them for instructions. Vodafone sent me an e-mail to follow which worked fine.

Sat in the hotel where I have a strong signal the connection is very reliable. I would have thought that performance on a moving train would be variable at best!

Typical cost is about £2.35 per Mb but you can buy bundles of data cheaper.

I am about to get a 3G data card. This has a max speed of 384Kbps. If you anticipate regular usage this might be a better option.

Hope this helps.

Martin
Posted on: 29 June 2005 by Richard AV
Thanks guys, your information has been very useful. So, I now know that it can be done but unfortunately GNER do not travel directly to Manchester.

I make the journey only really two or three times a year so investing in a GPRS card is probably not worth it, if I went every week then I would.
Posted on: 29 June 2005 by garyi
Well there you go, how they heck do they do that, satalite?
Posted on: 01 July 2005 by Martin Payne
quote:
Originally posted by Martin Hull:
Typical cost is about £2.35 per Mb but you can buy bundles of data cheaper.



It's worth pointing out that (AFAIK), you pay for GPRS (and presumably 3G data, too) by the MB, not by the minute connected.

It looks like there are some great deals on "three" phones ATM, too. With the current 3G coverage, though, I'd have thought it would revert to GPRS anywhere except city centres (ie on a train!)

cheers, Martin
Posted on: 02 July 2005 by Berlin Fritz
If it's that wifi though you can always open the windows, innit !!! Big Grin
Posted on: 02 July 2005 by Martin Hull
quote:
Originally posted by Martin Payne:
It looks like there are some great deals on "three" phones ATM, too.


Three only allow access to their own content. You can not access the internet via a Three phone.

I am expecting to get a Vodafone 3G card from work very soon. It will be interesting to see how it performs.

Cheers,
Martin
Posted on: 05 July 2005 by Martin Payne
quote:
Originally posted by Martin Hull:
Three only allow access to their own content. You can not access the internet via a Three phone.



Eh? What's the bloody point of that, then?

No wonder they have to make them so cheap!

cheers, Martin
Posted on: 05 July 2005 by Berlin Fritz
Good old Britain eh ! Big Grin