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Dear Fritz,

I am serious. What does, 'Bigos' mean? Fred

Bigos is a wonderful Polish recipe Our Fredders, with just about everything in it, from meat, veggies, vodka, & Jam , etc, etc, takes a few days to cook,(mega amount usually) and beats Russian Borsch hands doon*

Fritz von Try it*

Oh Go on then as it's you:

Bigos is a peculiarly Polish dish. It can be a simple snack purchased for unthinking quick consumption in any Polish café or it can be the centrepiece of an elaborate meal. Essentially bigos or Hunters’ Stew is exactly that a stew of sauerkraut, white cabbage and Polish meats. At its finest it is a glorious dish of immense subtlety of flavour and a matter of family hour and pride. Every self-respecting Polish family has its own recipes for bigos that is to them self evidently the only correct, proper and perfect recipe for bigos regardless of what the rest of the Polish world chooses to believe! Because bigos is one of those rare dishes that positively thrives on repeated re-heating it never tastes exactly the same at any two servings, even if one was actually to employ exactly the same recipe on every occasion. It is a marvellously forgiving dish that, within reason, will allow you to adapt the recipe depending upon what exactly is to hand.

Bigos has a strong and all pervasive aroma, which Poles find magically magnetic, signalling as it does impending culinary delight and total sensory gratification. Inexplicably many non-Poles seem to feel that the delicate aroma of Bigos ranks with the aroma of badly blocked drains and un-emptied food waste bins in really hot weather, in the league table of preferred smells and aromas. My advice to any English friend who has not yet tried the dish is simple. Just ignore the smell and tuck in. Within seconds you will have forgotten the smell in the joy and revelation of the taste and amazingly the second time you come across the dish the aroma will have magically transformed itself into a total turn on!

Bigos even made it into the great 19th Century national epic poem ‘Pan Tadeusz’. Adam Mickiewicz tells us that:-

In the kettles they were cooking bigos. In words it is hard to express the wonderful taste and colour of bigos and its marvellous odour; in a description of it one hears only the clinking words and the regular rimes, but no city stomach can understand their content. In order to appreciate Lithuanian songs and dishes, one must have health, must live in the country, and must be returning from a hunting party.

However, even without these sauces, bigos is no ordinary dish, for it is artistically composed of good vegetables. The foundation of it is sliced, sour cabbage, which, as the saying is, goes into the mouth of itself; this, enclosed in a kettle, covers with its moist bosom the best parts of selected meat, and is parboiled, until the fine extracts from it all the living juices, and until the fluid boils over the edge of the pot, and the very air around is fragrant with the aroma.

The bigos was soon ready. The huntsmen with a thrice-repeated vivat, armed with spoons, ran up and assailed the kettle; the copper rang, the vapour burst forth, the bigos evaporated like camphor, it vanished and flew away; only in the jaws of the caldrons the steam still seethed, as in the craters of extinct volcanoes.

As we have said every good Polish family has its own - the one correct - recipe for bigos. Well here is ours or maybe it is not ours. Fran claims to have acquired the recipe from my mother Floss who learnt it from my father. However, according to Mum, we do it all wrong. Bigos is a dish that truly evolves!

You will need a large jar of sauerkraut, half a small white cabbage (shredded), a desert spoon of dried mushrooms previously soaked for two to three hours in warm water, at least one pound of Polish sausage (boiling ring), half a pound of diced raw pork, sugar, peppercorns, bay leaves, a tube of tomato puree, caraway seeds, vinegar, two decent size glasses of red wine and one small glass of brandy.

Rinse the sauerkraut thoroughly and drain. Place in a saucepan with the shredded cabbage. Drain and add the soaked mushrooms plus fifteen to twenty peppercorns, two or three bay leaves, a pinch of caraway seeds, the diced pork, and diced Polish sausage.

Cover with water, bring to the boil and simmer gently for between sixty and ninety minutes. Then add four tablespoons (at least) of tomato puree, two glasses of red wine, a glass of brandy, a tablespoon of sugar and a desert spoon of vinegar. Simmer gently for a further thirty to sixty minutes. Add more wine and or water, or indeed both, if it begins to look dry. Reheat before serving. This bigos is best cooked slowly and reheated for an hour or two a day over one or two days. Again add water or wine, or both, if it looks dry.

It can be served alone, with brown bread, or with boiled or mashed potatoes. It can be accompanied by wine or vodka but best of all a good bottle of Polish beer…



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Dear Fritz!

Thank you so much for such a lovely Post! Fredrik

I thought you'd like it, I tell you one thing though it's made me bloody hungry, off to raid the galley methinks, Cheers.


Regards,

Fritz von What's the difference between a sleeping policeman and a bollard?


Goodnight***

Dear Fritz,

What we ate was made from many vegetables, and some cooked chicken was also in there, and so if you were lucky there were some really nice solid bits, but mainly it was a soup and called just that, but said as if the 's' was a 'z!'

The pot was something of a surprise! I guess that most UK houses don't run to big enough pots for proper cooking nowadays, so improvisation was used! An enamelled round bread bin large enough to get a good three large loaves in did service, and I guess the gas flame would never hurt it!

Certainly the whole evening will be one of those nights out that will never be forgotten...


Just cracked open a Lech, as I don't see myself going far this evening!

All the best from Fredrik

2 kebabs 6 becks, came home with 3 times more than going out with, last �1 in the funny machine*


Bigos innit*

A perfectly good and safe end to this one hopes naturally!

Fritz von I do find it quite inconcievable that a car in the UK in 200 and er, 6 can roam around willy nilly being unregistered, perhaps the police are too busy? or should they blame the govt?


Bloody Pinko liberal whingers I expect*

A very Happy Official 80th Birthday too to her Majesty, Hip Hip Hooray, Hip Hip Hooray, Hip Hip Hooray !


What a load of right unpatriotic sods on this forum really*

Dear Fritz,

There was a nice little Thread on the Queen's Eightieth Birthday a short while ago. Here.

I have no telivision, but certainly it sounds like Her Majesty was on good form during the official celebrations this week.

In a changeable world, she seems to have just a perfect sense of how fast to change herself. A truly inspirational person in my view, and that has nothing much to do with patriotism, but admiration for someone who really does seem on top of the job. Quite extra-ordinary that she should have so successfully steered such a fine course for so long! Long may she reign over us.

________


I am sorry to look at your link after making my reply so this is additional. The world is not just a changeable place, but there are some horrible people about. I share your hope that everything is as fine as the optimist might hope. Oh dear...

Fredrik

Yes Fredders I am aware of that, but this is her official birthday. She is quite an extraordinary person in respect of her duty and her experiences, I agree with you quite a star in many ways.


Fritz von Pity that Slobbo died so early, I would have liked him to have seen the Argentina game, the people too are slowly realising the folly of falsely protecting murderers like Karadich & Laddich on patriotic hero bullshit misplaced status grounds* (Reids holiday drinking partner chums). I'm very happy for Kofi Anan (A Great man in my view) who'll be celebrating Ghana's classic win tonght (Wonderful for Africa too of course, football fan or not)*


Now the Yanks and the Mafia, but tomorrow's Brazil & Australia game looks like being a real cracker t'be sure*

Is Camp Victory for Gays only*?

Dear Fritz,

I hardly think of myself as being the architypical patriot, but you have spurred me to do a new HM Queen Thread.

I am hardly pleased with the old UK as you know, and would leave if if I could see a viable way of doing so, but the Quenn is indeed someone who commands at least respect, and for many including me affection as well.

Fred

"You've not seen nuffin like the mighty Quenn"

I remember that one!

Yetserday at work they had connected up the Tannoy to the Radio, which is something some of us had been asking for for about the last five years, and they tuned to Radio Two! There were an awful lot of '60s songs on and then we had a light opera concert! I can't see the choice of station surviving long! Pleased me well enough though! Hehe!!

Fredrik

I think it was very decent of Our Fredders to put that HRH thread up, just think if the regular patriotic members had forgotten it, not to mention the future possible Royal seal of approval on all Naim kit.


Fritz von Arise Sir Adam*

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Originally posted by erik scothron:

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Originally posted by GuyPerry:
Frederik

She has lead her life in a way no-one ever could. My Gran has lived lived a life infinately more demanding, yet my Gran has managed to instill, in the face of much more than she has had to contend with, an understanding of richness, that she has instilled into Her future generations, that HRH could never muster.

Regards

Guy

What a load of drivel

I'm tempted to put a rather large OLD in the middle of that Our Erik, ie, "What a load of OLDdrivel"

Fritz von And no! that is in absolutely no way intended to be disrespectful to the Right Honourable Member Guy's dear Granny either*

We all love Our Grannies generally, but to make such a comparison is ludricrous as there's no way of quantifying it either, innit*

P.S. Our Andy requires serious proof and intricate facts and details of such comments, ie, while he's still getting a case together the rest of the world has made an 'as far as is possible informed (limited´-time-frame and costs)decision' and moved on whether that decision is perfect or floored, but at least it' been made, instead of endlessly sitting on the wall prevaricating over pedantic niceties like some Barrister/Part Time Judge with unlimited Public Funds at her disposal, innit*

Not personal Our Andy just a TRUE Generalization totally devoid of er, all facts Son*

Regards,


Fritz von "I don't know what I've done but I've done it again" John*

quote:

Originally posted by Basil:

quote:

Good news for all chinless inbred retards – life expectancy is still 80+. Looks like it will be a few more generations before the effects kick in. Keep counting those fingers……

I'm not a blind Royalist as such, but see the advantage to Britain in them being there in a symbolic role, the German blood has obviously done them a lot of good, innit! Similarly; I'm not a blind boring football knobhead either (is that allowed Adam?) but see the importance of the World Cup as a non political bringer together of Nations. You recall John Reid Home Secretary, got his Doctorate in Marxist and Troskyite studies (lest you forget) and as an ex Communist party member too (Blair etc being staunch 'er. Socialists, Labourites, once upon a time) yet all swore allegiance to Her Majesty to become Public Servants (unlike Messers Adams MP etc).


Fritz von When a Republic is born this requirement will no longer exist, I personally think that those who wish to attain British High Office (NOW) should have another option, ie, so All Democratically elected N.Irish Politicians (By PR too; lest you forget) can sit at Westminster, until the day that they all sit in the Doyle/Stormont free of political ties with the caring Mother next door that is*



I didn't know he came from Romford, Well I never did*

What with Rev I Paisleys kids jumping on the old political banwagon too, as well as his MRs entering the Lords (It's true you know) things look safe for awhile in some quarters, innit*

Let the Bigotry and hatred continue Chaps*

And I thought Life was a flaming Brandy upon a Crepe Suzzette!

Fritz von Turns out it's all just a placebo then, innit*

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Fritz von I do find it quite inconcievable that a car in the UK in 200 and er, 6 can roam around willy nilly being unregistered, perhaps the police are too busy? or should they blame the govt?

did you see the ITN news at 2245 17-6-08 - seems the kid was located and 2 were arrested on susp of child cruelty. Thought seeing as you took the trouble to post your thoughts, I'd let ya know what had happened.

regards

andy c!

PS - me gran taught me loads, and other than me mum is the most headstrong, opinionated woman I know. Trouble is, she always made total sense - strange that...

Was the photo of Lord Longford? Seems to ring a bell somewhere in my brain!

I am none-too-delighted by the HMQ Thread of course, but then I think I always lived in a minority. I don't need any sympathy on that. It is easy to throw stones but less easy to be positive about a success, at least if you are British! I don't think I am in many ways. Yes it is what it says on my Passport, but being born here does not guarantee it.

Anyway I am off to cut some grass with a hook as it is too tall for any mower! My own hook was stolen, so first I have to borrow one. And rescue my old bike at the same time I think... I still have the carborundum stone so I can make a blade sparp again in a few seconds.

Take care, from Fredrik.

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Originally posted by Fredrik_Fiske:
Fredrik's great grandfather as a young man in the 1890s, I would guess.



Ivar Fiske 1875-1967

Posted by Fredrik Fiske

Here is a photo of my old great grandfather which I have the original of... I spent a long time working on this scan to make a clean version of it. The photo must be perhaps 110 years old. Though he was a difficult man, he was a hero of mine, and I remember him vividly from my childhood. He was very tall, over six foot, and even in his nineties a strikingly handsome man.

He went to Leipzig to the University, and was one of the foremost engineers in Norway...

Fredrik

Fredrick - nice photo!

It's spitting with rain here - so I do the Ironing whilst watching the footy instead...

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Originally posted by andy c:

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Fritz von I do find it quite inconcievable that a car in the UK in 200 and er, 6 can roam around willy nilly being unregistered, perhaps the police are too busy? or should they blame the govt?

did you see the ITN news at 2245 17-6-08 - seems the kid was located and 2 were arrested on susp of child cruelty. Thought seeing as you took the trouble to post your thoughts, I'd let ya know what had happened.

regards

andy c!

PS - me gran taught me loads, and other than me mum is the most headstrong, opinionated woman I know. Trouble is, she always made total sense - strange that...

Andy Old bean for somebody who's supposedly in touch with the Public, and who relies on good communication with the said er, public, to help you with your er, inquiries, your above comments just about some the whole problem up, ie, lack of er, public communication, and jumping to ludicrous conclusions to protect your case irrespective of the consequences (which in my case are obviously irrellevant). I'm naturally pleased that the child has been found unharmed, as desired by me (and Our Fredders on an earlier post) (nice picture Fredders, innit).

I made no insinuation or anti-police statement (and I'm glad I don't drink with you, cos I've seen and heard it all before on this one). I'm aware that the police don't write laws or make public policy, and I'm also aware of the frustration they suffer often with experience from the er 'media' highlighting a case like this (happens everyday as you well know ?)(tip off's from disgruntled spouses too, etc, etc). Vehicle registration in UK is a farce (my point) and if such regs came in (as they're normal here and other places too, the 'actual owner can be ascertained in seconds flat). The good work done by the police in this case probably cost £100,000's more than it should have done, though the er, 'the media + No 10 will no doubt be happy'.

Vehicle registration in this manner requires every owner to de-register their vehicle (on National Computer) and new owner to immediately register within hours almost. This is not only to act as an safety barrier for owner through theft, missuse/robbery etc, but the local authority to send the bill to a rusting wreck dumped in some beauty/ugly spot etc etc (never seen here exactly for that reason). As mentioned by me on here before by ther way, ignored as per usual, even by Our Taxi expert. The common sense of this whole scheme (not police run is self-evident) (as well as for insurance vultures and IFA's)(The enthusisam that goes into Mickey Mouse clamping and speed cameras is fuelled by pure financial reward like it or not)m pity the same enthuisiam can't be put into other areas of Govt (Local & Central social responsibility innit)(Non PFI run naturally).


Fritz von Trust your pressing engagements aren't too pressing, innit.


Regards,

Fritz (hopefully making real changes rather than continuing the old bollocks?)

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I made no insinuation or anti-police statement

I think you have over reacted to what I have put. I meant nothing more than to let you know the kid had been found. I am not sure as to how the kid came to be found, or how the enq is progressing. You posted the 'kid missing' link. I did not know if you were going to follow it up, or not.

I think there may have been a comms mix-up here, Fritz.

If I think you are anti-police I'll tell you. I have never said as such, have I?

RE registering of vehicles, I think you should carry your registration, licence and ins on u at all times, or come have a visit to the local nick to explain why - draconian - yup, but I'm paying out more insurace than I need to 'cos of folk that don't comply with these areas, and worse.

In case you missed it, Fritz, that was an opinion from me, and a broad agreement with your comments re vehicle registering.

andy.

PS - nearly finished me ironing, and the Japan Croats game ain't bad...

On number plates, surely it would be sensible if the number on a car applied to the owner and the car recorded as being the charge of that person, and this to be renewed annually, as is the case in Norway in any case.

The system in UK seems to be rather related to the pre-1914 situation! Almost as ludicrous as have a guy walk in front with a red flag!

All the best from Fredrik

I don't take anything 'personally' on this 'interent Forum' Our Andy, and I certainly wouldn't be here now if I did innit, unlike many others for whatever reasons they may have had?

Fritz von It's always good to clear the chaff from the wheat otherwise Our Adam would have barred me years ago, and I definately have no desire in going over to the draconianly 'administered' Pink Salmon Show' which likes to give the impression that it's Oh'so free and Democratic, hence the vulgar language for the sake of it, but beware if you don't suck up to Our Thingy when it's around full moon and she's having one of her self-importance hormone wobblys you'll be instantly zapped*


Even Our Mick's not welcome there any more*

Fritz,
glad to see you didn't take personal affront...

The trouble with the written word is that sometimes y'can't see the meaning bend it..If U get my drift.

Off to get comfy for brazillia now...