Programming CD5 memory

Are you sure the memory is supposed to clear when you remove the CD? What would be the purpose of being able to delete the memory if it's deleted whenever you remove it?

I used to have a Phillips CD player and the memory stayed.

It clears the memory, but the programming facility with Naim CD Players is so user-friendly you can redo it in a FLASH.

Holding the stop button down for a few secs also clears the memory.

Regards,

Steve.

Let your ears do the talking, let your remote control do the walking...

You can program a CD5?

I guess my ignorance is down to years of manually placing a stylus on the record where I want it to start from.

Although he hasn't stated it explicitly, I suspect that Artoris has had experience with one of those inexpensive, mass-market players, which remembers your CDs from one listening session to the next. Not only do they recall the preferred song order that you may have indicated, it also redisplays the artist, title, etc. for your viewing pleasure. Some of these need to be manually programmed with the front panel or remote, while others have a computer or keyboard interface to control it. Some even have an Internet connection to grab information from CDDB servers.

These features remind me of the programmability, flexibility and "intelligence" of most computer-based MP3 players. People like convenience, along with lots of bells and whistles. They often mistakenly equate the quantity of features with the quality of the performance.

In the case of Naim players et al., convenience is not so important as sound quality. In fact, they often eschew excess features, with the explanation that they adversely affect the performance. For someone new to Naim, though, they might be confused that an expensive CD player from Naim "forgets", while a cheap Sony doesn't.

-=> Mike Hanson <=-

Barry, it may not affect sound quality, but without a doubt would add to the cost. For what it's worth I hate hearing tracks out of sequence.
Paul.

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Originally posted by Barryr:
Having said all that Mike, I must say that the one feature in particular that I miss on Naim CD players is random play. I've always found that playing a CD on random mode can be a refreshing experience to a well-played CD.

And I'm certainly no electronics expert, but is it being seriously proposed that adding the facility for Random play to a Naim CDP is going to degrade the sound to any significant degree?

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I used to think that Random play was a must for CD replay, my player will play random, but now I haven't used the random feature for over two years. When The CDX arrives (mid september, if the cash gods are willing) i'll have been cured of my randommania!

Peter

Interestingly enough. The old Philips CD controller which had the ubiquitous Random play button use to start random play on my CDI. Great functionality, but it went when the Philips was sold.

The functionality is on the player, just hidden by Naim.

Having had a CD5 for 18 months, following an Arcam for 5 years, following a Nad for 3 years, I can honestly say that I have never attempted to rearrange any artist's output in the manner described, nor can I remember ever wanting to. I suppose I knew subconsciously that it could be done, but probably blanked it.

Thinking about it, I would be psychologically predisposed to any manufacturer of CD players who deliberately excluded this facility. Come to think of it, I've only used the remote about twice, as not having a remote-control preamp, it's a bit superfluous. The "Play" & "Stop" buttons seem to work well, though.

Best;

Mark

(an imperfect
forum environment is
better than none)

Just imagine the scene.

Nice dinner party, a few friends round
Now thats what I call music 1897645.
Random play. Music all night without having to change the CD.
All we need now is multidisc capability

"Is Naim that condescending that it would deny us this option to randomize tracks because they believe tracks should be played in the order designated???"

You'll be asking for tone controls on your amplifier next!

No I doubt it, Naim's philosophy would appear to be to give people what they really want (i.e. music sounding like it was concieved by the artistes).

I personally would include the order of the tracks in that. With music, the whole is often greater than the sum of its parts, so randomly playing different songs (or movements or whatever) can lose the essential qualities of the album as a whole. With commercial compilations (e.g. Now 137) the order just seems thrown together, so randomising them should have little or no effect on the overall experience.

I rarely use my remote anyway (no facility on the amplifier) so I put the cd in and press play (or record on and place stylus on the record) and if necessary adjust volume to permitted level and return to listening position. The four buttons on the front (play, stop, next and previous) are more than adequate for my needs, more often than not I press play, listen to the whole of the disc then remove the cd when it is finished.

Is there an arguement for a CD player that just starts when the drawer is closed with a cd in it and stops when the draw is opened so no need for any other controls at all!

"I don't think the "tone controls" argument is comparable"

I agree, it isn't but I merely used an extreme case to illustrate the point. Why pay over the odds for functions that merely add to the price and are never used (nothing comes cheap with Naim ).

My washing machine is a Meile (they are the Naim of the utility room), it has a dial to selec the wash cycle and a selector for the spin speed and an on-off switch, other washing m/c's I looked at had more controls than the USS Enterprise.

My LP12 has a switch to start and stop the platter turning round (Linn are the Linn of TT manufacturers )

My PC runs Windows ME - I wish it didn't

I have a Beethoven CD with Appasionata, Pathetqiue, and Moonlight Sonata in that order.

I would prefer to hear the Moonlight Sonata first. Even if he were still alive, I don't think Beethoven would have cared which order I listened to them.

I care about good sound as much as anybody. That's why I bought a Naim, but I don't think it would too much to ask to put a feature where I could program the sequence of tracks and have it remain the next time I listened to it.

My old Arcam Alpha goes into play when you put a CD in the drawer and press the drawer itself to close it.

I think it also has the hidden random function, if you can find an alternative remote control...

If you power up a Karik with a CD loaded it plays it. This means you can make a hifi alarm clock with the simple addition of a mains timer. Cool.

OTOH if you leave everything on and have a power cut in the middle of the night you can get woken up in a most disorienting way.

Paul

My Densen pre doesn't even have a balance control, and remote is an extra £250. All those buttons on the GIZMO remote do nothing for the CDX. As for random play, who cares?

Regards,

Steve.

Let your ears do the talking, let your remote control do the walking...

[This message was edited by Steven Toy on SATURDAY 03 August 2002 at 05:22.]

The RC from my old Marantz CD94 (1989-2002 R.I.P.) works fine on my CD5 - apart from random play.
I have overcome this problem by throwing a brick at the CD player at regular intervals. Works a treat.
And I've just found a USB port round the back of my washing machine. If I find out what it does, I'll report back.

HTK

Geoff,

Sorry Random play didn't work for you. On my CDI it worked. Obviously the functionality has been removed now! Apologies for inadvertently raising your expectations.

Neil

that you didn't sell it to Nuno...