lavry swap to ndac

Posted by: pylod on 07 August 2010

allow me one question without heating up a discussion. has all lavry 10 owners swapped to the nDAC by time ?...

i would like to invest in a solution soon now after waiting for almost 1,5 to 2 years. vinyl spined in that time here.

where i am unsure is the different views on the position of the n dac in the naim chain. i was one of the lucky lavry da 10 owners, who got one of the models , which convinced in every way Winker.
after owning it for 2 months and comparing it blind and with others, my cds 2 went on sale. when naim launched the n dac i sold my lavry in the hope it will be available soon and much better. it took another 8 months. so here i am without a solution right now.i like the serve + n dac solution. price wise and from the space and functionality, since i can just store everything in the half box and don´t need to build up a network or additional ugly computers.i just find them disturbing, sorry - no offense please.

where i am insecure is the performance of the combo. some position the n dac in the cd5 xs region. n dac + serve recently in the hdx or bit above. but in general everything under the cds 2 performance ? where the lavry made me sell my cds 2 . and believe i really loved this machine. so how does the n dac compares to the lavry in the end. ? something seems to be illogical here. would be nice to hear some posts from people , who appreciated the lavry not those , who didn´t like it. for them it is clear anyway, obviously.

thank you
Posted on: 08 August 2010 by james n
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Originally posted by ROTF:
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Originally posted by ferenc:
This hype is getting very similar to the Mac/Lavry hype not so long ago, when it was said "better" than a CDS3 ... Now it seems all the Lavrys gone/changed and there is a new king in town. Smile
I wonder for how long? Smile

Sorry guys, do not want to query your experience, it is your decision and experience anyway, but let me be brutally honest, it is kind of funny. Smile
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Posted on: 08 August 2010 by tonym
No hype with the Lavry as far as I'm concerned. An excellent DAC and superb value for money. No point in going over old ground, suffice to say I continue to be puzzled why someone could really dislike the Lavry and I suspect there must be more at work here than mere individual preference.
Posted on: 08 August 2010 by js
I also thought he Lavry good for the money and so did ferenc but that wasn't all that was said about it. I actually preferred the SN DAC when compared with a TC, Wavelab and wav files driving them both but like all things we are allowed to like what we like and preferrence is for the beholder. Liked them both more than the Benchmark.

At the time, almost all using the Lavry were also using Itunes with lossless ripped in same and the tos out. Computer Audiophile said it worked perfect. I had some issues with that. They don't say that now but they're still many's referrence. Confused

I think there's been enough through the mill now where eyes have been opened and folks can decide for themselves. Weiss make good products but they also haven't reinvented the wheel. The cicuits are not unique but they do a great job with them. If you think it may compete, give a listen and decide for yourself but understand what you're listening to when it comes to the files, player and interface etc so that you get yourself a proper dem. Smile
Posted on: 08 August 2010 by Eloise
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Originally posted by js:
At the time, almost all using the Lavry were also using Itunes with lossless ripped in same and the tos out. Computer Audiophile said it worked perfect. I had some issues with that. They don't say that now but they're still many's referrence. Confused

If you're talking about the Computer Audiophile website, I don't think Chris (the site owner/admin) has ever said that using the TOSLink output is "perfect". What he may have said (that you are referring to) is that the output (into a Lavry or other DAC) is bitperfect which is a different matter. All this refers to is that the software and operating system is not altering any of the bits. Other things (like jitter) may affect the overall quality. For a long time Chris recommended using a Lynx AES16 card with a AES input DAC such as his benchmark Berkeley Alpha DAC.

iTunes on the Mac (with Lossless or uncompressed files) does provide a bit-perfect output (when correctly configured), but this might not be everything in getting the best quality output.

Eloise
Posted on: 08 August 2010 by js
Perhaps I have mixed it with some of Dan's posts. My apologies to CA and thanks for the correction Eloise. He has however gone through a variety of solutions over the years including Benchmark, ps audio, and Weiss dac2 direct before the Berkeley/Lynx. I think he's now onto the Weiss 202. I believe almost all his listening is via NAS lossless files with J. River in windows or everything except PM in MAC. I do like his progression of DACs overall but think he could do better with full bit files and perhaps Wavelab as player to get the best source from a computer. It may not be a library player program but once a standard is set, folks could choose their poison. My opinion of course. A local computer engineer's home comparison of Naim vs Berkely clearly favored the Naim so it seems the Naim DAC and the DAC202 should be the ones to compare and choose based on price, use, and preference.
Posted on: 08 August 2010 by gary1 (US)
Someone traded in a Lavry?
Posted on: 09 August 2010 by naimUnT
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Originally posted by munch:
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Originally posted by gary1 (US):
Someone traded in a Lavry?
A few have and have gone chuff nut bobcat. Big Grin


Sorry, but what does "chuff nut bobcat" mean?