What Exactly Is Bi-Sexuality !!!

Posted by: Berlin Fritz on 02 April 2005

I personally find it hard to fathom, subscribing to the view that one is either Gay or Straight with no equal idiom in the between so to speak, innit.


Fritz Von Let's talk about Sex said the London Bubble, or rather sung it Big Grin


P.S. Sorry if bringing up this subject offends anybody, I suppose we should really be thinking about the newly delivered Nuclear Material that Russia has just sent to Iran ready for their New Power Station, which should soon be up and running, then of course there are the possible consequences if Israel decided to bomb it like they did the last time, and the general stability in the Region, though get the Yanks and Brits out of Iraq first, innit.

Fritz Von Earthquakes & Polish Soldiers what a mixture Smile
Posted on: 04 April 2005 by Earwicker
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Originally posted by Berlin Fritz:
I bet one of those kids on the streets of Stoke told you all that perfectly possible theoretical gobbledygook ?

It's just basic genetics that's all. It's observable fact.
Posted on: 04 April 2005 by Joe Petrik
Earwicker,

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I suspect you're confusing the heritability co-efficient with the Hardy-Weinberg equilibrium.


No, I'm not. I said nothing about gene (or more correctly, allele) frequencies, the stuff of H-W calculations. I was talking about heritability -- the proportion of phenotypic differences seen in a population that's attributable to all sources of genetic variation. That's the standard textbook definition of broad sense heritability. (Maybe you're confusing the two since both heritability and H-W calculations are done only on populations, not individuals.)

Joe
Posted on: 04 April 2005 by Earwicker
quote:
Originally posted by Joe Petrik:
Earwicker,

quote:
I suspect you're confusing the heritability co-efficient with the Hardy-Weinberg equilibrium.


No, I'm not. I said nothing about gene (or more correctly, allele) frequencies, the stuff of H-W calculations. I was talking about heritability -- the proportion of phenotypic differences seen in a population that's attributable to all sources of genetic variation. That's the standard textbook definition of broad sense heritability. (Maybe you're confusing the two since both heritability and H-W calculations are done only on populations, not individuals.)

Joe

Yes, I was talking about gene frequencies in a population. Sorry.

I don't think the H-W CAN be applied to individuals? (A full 8 days of stress and insomnia is taking its toll on my memory and concentration here...! Winker)

Gene selection acts THROUGH the individual (genes don't get hungry, for e.g.!), by gene survival coefficient, I refer to the fitness of an allele and its statistical prospects in an evolving population (i.e. one that is not in H-W equilibrium.)
Posted on: 04 April 2005 by Joe Petrik
EW,

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A full 8 days of stress and insomnia is taking its toll on my memory and concentration here...


With all due respect, get some sleep. (And yes, applying H-W equations to individuals makes no sense at all. But that wasn't my point.)

Joe
Posted on: 04 April 2005 by Earwicker
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Originally posted by Joe Petrik:
EW,

quote:
A full 8 days of stress and insomnia is taking its toll on my memory and concentration here...


With all due respect, get some sleep. Joe

I wish I could. The finer points of the H-W equilibrium I can wrap my mind round, how you can lie down, switch off and just go to sleep I cannot. I bloody wish I could though. Frown

EW
Posted on: 04 April 2005 by Joe Petrik
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The finer points of the H-W equilibrium I can wrap my mind round, how you can lie down, switch off and just go to sleep I cannot.


Are you depressed, worried, gassy, too conservative -- or are you just having difficult shutting off when your head hits the pillow?

Joe
Posted on: 04 April 2005 by Earwicker
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Originally posted by Joe Petrik:
Are you depressed, worried, gassy, too conservative -- or are you just having difficult shutting off when your head hits the pillow?

Joe

All of the above, to be honest, Joe. I can't shut off - no matter HOW exhausted I am, I've been very depressed lately, I've always been conservative, and nothing available with or without prescription seems to help.

I've always had trouble sleeping, but it's getting bloody ridiculous. No WONDER I'm such a miserable scumbag!

EW
Posted on: 04 April 2005 by Joe Petrik
EW,

If you have bad insomnia, as in can't sleep a wink despite your being utterly exhausted, you should see a doctor. Insomnia can be a symptom of a much more serious problem. And even if it isn't, you should see a doctor anyway since chronic insomnia can become a problem.

Joe

P.S. I assume you're not doing the obvious wrong things -- having caffeine, eating too late, or exercising heavily before going to bed (exercising earlier in the day, however, can be helpful) -- and have tried the obvious right things, like relaxing (listening to the hi-fi, for example) or reading light fare just before bed?
Posted on: 04 April 2005 by Steve Toy
A few beers with a few mates talking bollocks helps - and then off to bed.

I often suffer from insomnia in December - partly because it's the Christmas rush (fear/potential of making money I really need not greed), and partly because daylight is so short that I don't get to see any of it.

Exercise, even if it just means a walk round my neighbourhood during the day usually helps.

Alcohol works only in moderation - get completely pissed and you wake up after about four hours with a nasty hangover that actually keeps you awake.

Funnily enough, if you aren't anxious about sleep you can stay asleep until the hangover has completely worn off, but this only happens if you don't have an insomnia issue to begin with.

Isn't life a bitch?
Posted on: 05 April 2005 by Berlin Fritz
Is it the same for all gendi ?

Fritz Von The pro's & Cons like Confused
Posted on: 05 April 2005 by Rasher
Earwicker - Please, please go and see a Cranial Osteopath. If you have already done that, then go for acupuncture.
My wife's friend has a son who would not bloody sleep at night, and they were at breaking point. It took a lot of persuasion, but eventually they went. That evening the son said he was tired and asked to go to bed early, and slept for 9 hours solid. He has been to follow up appointments since and now sleeps normally.
My daughter went yesterday as treatment for an ear complaint.
Please at least try it.
And stop being nasty about yourself. You are NOT a miserable scumbag!
Posted on: 05 April 2005 by Earwicker
quote:
Originally posted by Rasher:
Earwicker - Please, please go and see a Cranial Osteopath. If you have already done that, then go for acupuncture.
My wife's friend has a son who would not bloody sleep at night, and they were at breaking point. It took a lot of persuasion, but eventually they went. That evening the son said he was tired and asked to go to bed early, and slept for 9 hours solid. He has been to follow up appointments since and now sleeps normally.
My daughter went yesterday as treatment for an ear complaint.
Please at least try it.
And stop being nasty about yourself. You are NOT a miserable scumbag!

Thanks Rasher.

Anything's worth a try, and I'm grateful for suggestions.

I've just got back from Doncaster after a long shit of a day on site and I'm off again first thing... one more night without a wink of sleep and I think I finally WILL become a miserable scumbag!!

(I'm giving those herbal "Kalms" tablets a try just now - not a miracle but better than nothing...

I'll keep you posted, thanks mate.

EW
Posted on: 06 April 2005 by Dougunn
Earwicker

Top tip for a good nights sleep is a hot bath with some lavender oil in it about an hour before bed and try not to hold any thoughts in your head - just let them come and go . . .

Also, Celestial Seasonings "Sleepytime" herbal tea at the same time works wonders for me

Have a look here http://www.bbc.co.uk/sn/tvradio/programmes/sleep/

Wishing you some restorative ZZZZZZZZZ

D