Avoiding congestion charges...
Posted by: Van the man on 04 June 2006
A story in the mail this morning, a guy has avoided congestion charges by using the bill of rights, that have been enshrined in the british constitution since 1689.
" The citizens right to resist arbitrary fines imposed without the accused first being found guilty of an offence "
He has successfully challenged the fines several times.
A letter from tfl states " Following a review of the issue of the fixed charge notice together with the circumstances and points you raised, your representation has been accepted and we have cancelled the penalty charge notice.
Does this expose a loophole for other alleged offences? litter fixed penalties?
You have to read the full article, it is interesting.
" The citizens right to resist arbitrary fines imposed without the accused first being found guilty of an offence "
He has successfully challenged the fines several times.
A letter from tfl states " Following a review of the issue of the fixed charge notice together with the circumstances and points you raised, your representation has been accepted and we have cancelled the penalty charge notice.
Does this expose a loophole for other alleged offences? litter fixed penalties?
You have to read the full article, it is interesting.
quote:Originally posted by Mr Underhill:
Mmmmm,
I'll watch this one with interest.
I would imagine that if this becomes a large enough issue the 'authorities' will bring in a trechnical solution to fully anable a succesful prosecution.
One challenge to a speeding fine has been to contest that you where driving, that it MAY have been your wife - for instance.
Speeding cameras are now being introduced that take photos of the driver.
Also, as we move into the digital age the limitations on film frames in GATSO will probably come to an end.
Indirect taxation?
M
I can imagine that tfl will write off the occasional fine that someone objects to paying under the bill of rights, after all, how many people who drive through the zone are aware of the loophole?
When you weigh the odd write off against the money they are stealing off people you know where the answer lies
As for cameras taking the photograph of the person, there is no such ban on the wearing of a mickey mouse mask whilst driving is there?
quote:Originally posted by Van the man:
As for cameras taking the photograph of the person, there is no such ban on the wearing of a mickey mouse mask whilst driving is there?
Not as such, but if you do, you can expect the police to suspect you of being on the way to rob a bank or commit a terrorist outrage or somesuch.
quote:Originally posted by JoeH:quote:Originally posted by Van the man:
As for cameras taking the photograph of the person, there is no such ban on the wearing of a mickey mouse mask whilst driving is there?
Not as such, but if you do, you can expect the police to suspect you of being on the way to rob a bank or commit a terrorist outrage or somesuch.
To which I would say " it wasnt me guvner honest "
quote:Originally posted by JoeH:quote:Originally posted by Van the man:
...there is no such ban on the wearing of a mickey mouse mask whilst driving is there?
Not as such, but if you do, you can expect the police to suspect you of being on the way to rob a bank or commit a terrorist outrage or somesuch.
And then you will have to shoot yourself. Or get a relative to do it.
quote:Originally posted by Derek Wright:
Driving under the influence of a MM mask - why you are not driving with a clear view of the road, I am sure that "without due care and attention" will come into the charge <g>
Valid point
But have you a clear view of the road when driving in excess of the speed limit anyway?
quote:Originally posted by Mr Underhill:
Speeding cameras are now being introduced that take photos of the driver.
quote:Originally posted by Rasher:quote:Originally posted by Mr Underhill:
Speeding cameras are now being introduced that take photos of the driver.
Get one of john prescott and you will get away with it
Seriously though, if and when they bring this technology out there will be a way around it that people will use.
I have heard of bikers removing their licence plates when parking to avoid parking tickets, apparently this is another loophole.