New mains spur - improvement?

Posted by: Gary S. on 20 July 2006

Inspired by others, particularly the brilliant post written in the form of a newspaper article (which I now cant find), I recently set about installing my own separate spur.

After the initial frustration of tracking down an appropriate 32amp MCB to fit my consumer unit, I started chasing out walls and drilling holes etc. I choose to use 6mm cable rather than 10mm for the ease of drawing the cable, but I still managed to take the skin of every knuckle on both hands - boy is that stuff stiff.

Anyway, by the close of play a week ago Saturday, it was in and connected. I was so knackered I just flopped onto the settee with a beer and prepared to be amazed. But it was all a bit of an anti-climax, there appeared to be no great improvement to start with.

The following morning however, things seemed to be singing and I began to reconsider. The trouble is, I often find my hifi sounds great on a Sunday morning for some reason, so I remained open minded.

Since then I have been very busy and have barely listened to anything, but tonight I have sat down for a good listening session and have had time to swap the plug between the spur and the ring main and there is definitely an improvement. The difference is not as great as I had hoped, not the "better than a new black box" improvement that I have heard others talk about, but an improvement is an improvement and it only cost me about £50 for all the bits which can't be bad.

By the way, before anyone starts shouting about the dangers of DIY electrics, I should say I do know what I'm doing and it will all be covered by a Building Regs Part P certificate in due course.

The interesting thing is the improvements are more noticeable using the LP12 as a source rather than CD, which I hadn't expected. The Lingo is still on the ring main and therefore hasn't been improved as such. I assume the phono stage in the pre amp appreciates the better supply?

The improvement in sound is a slightly gutsier bass and improved detail/separation although it varies track to track. I also fancy my foot's tapping that bit more Smile, which is always my acid test.

Regards

Gary
Posted on: 20 July 2006 by hungryhalibut
I found a very significant improvement, but I have a separate CU as well as a 10mm spur, which in my view is well worth the extra few quid. Few other improvements give such VFM.

Nigel
Posted on: 20 July 2006 by PS
....seperate CU, multiple spurs, 10mm2 cabling, 50A MCB's, sparkling clean contacts - together make for a huge improvement....

....also don't forget the 6-10 week burn-in period (sounds crazy but true)....
Posted on: 20 July 2006 by PS
.....I suppose that it's off to the Padded Cell now with this thread....
Posted on: 20 July 2006 by hungryhalibut
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.....I suppose that it's off to the Padded Cell now with this thread....


Before someone blows a fuse.............
Posted on: 20 July 2006 by prowla
What's a fuse?
Posted on: 20 July 2006 by Stephen Tate
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Originally posted by prowla:
What's a fuse?


A device that's lit at both ends. Winker
Posted on: 20 July 2006 by prowla
quote:
Originally posted by Stephen Tate:
quote:
Originally posted by prowla:
What's a fuse?


A device that's lit at both ends. Winker
Kindof like this thread then?
Posted on: 20 July 2006 by Chillkram
You finished it then, Gary.

For £50 quid and a bit of elbow grease you can't go wrong. Sometimes I find that improvements often manifest themselves over time and perhaps this will be a 'grower'. I find this especially with those improvements to do with musical involvement rather than the obvious 'more impactful bass' etc. If you're tapping your toes more that's got to be good.

I'm definitely not up to a diy effort myself and it may be a while before I can persuade the missus that someone carving channels in to the wall is a good thing!

Mark
Posted on: 20 July 2006 by Gary S.
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Originally posted by Chillkram:
I'm definitely not up to a diy effort myself and it may be a while before I can persuade the missus that someone carving channels in to the wall is a good thing!

Mark


Mark

In my last house, I suddenly got the urge one Saturday morning whilst my wife was out, to chase some cable into the wall. So, out came the angle grinder and off I went. Within a few minutes you couldn't see more than a foot in front of your face. I opened all the windows and the dust started billowing out. At about that time, my wife returned and thought the house was on fire! I hadn't put down a single dust sheet or made any attempt to cover anything up and I am still not allowed to forget it 12 years later Big Grin

At least this time I didn't use the angle grinder, but I still made a lot of mess!

Gary
Posted on: 20 July 2006 by Chillkram
Rather you than me, Gary.

BTW did you get the adaptors back?

Mark
Posted on: 20 July 2006 by Greg787
You'll get varied sound quality throughout the day and week depending on how many other households are using the AC. Sunday mornings and evenings after, say, 11 PM are generally the best AC periods. Weekday afternoons and early evenings I suspect are generally the worst, particularly in the summer with all the air conditioner units running full bore. Other factors are how close you are to heavy industry areas or large buildings, both of which suck lots of AC juice.

The improvement wrought by a dedicated mains spur depends on a few factors:
1. the age of the house (i.e., the age, quality and size of the wiring it's replacing)
2. how many receptacles and other junctions a dedicated spur would otherwise replace (mine got rid of 5, I believe)
3. the quality of the power coming into the house to begin with (GIGO, garbage in = garbage out as far as low voltage sagging, RF interference, etc.)
4. the quality of the breaker box itself. An old, crapped out one may need to be replaced for utmost fidelity if its that bad and/or old. You can get "hardcore" industrial grade ones and Isoclean makes a superfi one. Both are rather expensive, though (especially the Isoclean at like $3000 American dollars)

I got a decent improvement with my dedicated line insofar as bass, soundstaging, lowered noise floor, etc. but it wasn't night-and-day like a black box upgrade or when I tunded my room. My house is only 3 years old, though. I think the main improvement was created simply by getting all the junctions on the previous line out of the picture and by terminating it with an "audiophile" grade AC receptacle.
Posted on: 20 July 2006 by Gary S.
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Originally posted by Chillkram:
Rather you than me, Gary.

BTW did you get the adaptors back?

Mark


Yes Mark, thanks

Gary