N-vi

Kuma

ATC SCM10s are something around 85db/w/m. Anything with less than 60w/ch is going to suffer when driving them. they also have a nasty dip in impedance which is something no switching amplifier is going to be able to cope with easily.

SCM10s were designed for stereo applications. 'Real' HT applications usually have smaller, easier to drive satellites and powered subs such as n-Sat/n-Cent/n-Sub or M&K K-Series/Xenon. I think it's unreasonable to cite the SCM10 in this context...

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Originally posted by kuma:

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Originally posted by Rico:

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but NOT enough amplification for home theater application

eh? Tuan, you really should explain that statement. I suspect you are working from preconceptions or theory, rather than experience. unusually.

Well, it's not enough for my passive ATC SCM 10s for sure.

For home theatre, I now use a pair of Totem Model 1 Signature powered by a Bryston 4B-SST and a Krell KSL pre-amp. The advantage of using a high power (and good) amp is to have absolute control on the speakers at relatively high volume (for films I like the sound to be clear and dynamic at high volume). My experience shows that to extract proper bass notes from speakers I need high power amp (a compact 50w will not do the job). A good audio system (high quality setup) is a good system for any applications (a traditional stereo setup or to be used in the context of a home theatre). I do not buy speakers made "for home theatre applications". I buy good speakers to have good sound. Future expansion will consist of 5 Totem Model 1 Signature speakers powered by all Bryston amps each with the 4B-SST equivalent power (Brystom makes a 3 mono-block version of the 4B-SST) to match with the 2 channel amp to form the 5.1 system). Also, I hear that high definition DVD players will be available soon and DVD play back is a fast growing market, I think it is better to separate the audio part and the video part for better upgrade paths.

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My experience shows that to extract proper bass notes from speakers I need high power amp (a compact 50w will not do the job).

You got to be kiddin, Tuan....Model 1's only go down to 50Hz and they are not that difficult to drive. I hope you are planning some serious sub woofery for your system if you are really trying to extract PROPER bass notes...

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Originally posted by Geoff P:

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My experience shows that to extract proper bass notes from speakers I need high power amp (a compact 50w will not do the job).

You got to be kiddin, Tuan....Model 1's only go down to 50Hz and they are not that difficult to drive. I hope you are planning some serious sub woofery for your system if you are really trying to extract PROPER bass notes...

A small Velodyne sub-woofer will be purchased. The Totem model 1 Signature has solid bass.

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The Totem model 1 Signature has solid bass.

You want solid, serious bass try the Totem mani 2's....then you would really need some watts!

Has anyone of you guys an idea if the FM/DAB-module may "spoil" the sound of the n-Vi (high frequencies...) ?

The Model-1 is not that easy to drive. Certainly I'd not be happy driving it with less than a 200.

Tuan, I can recommend the SPL800i or better.

Frank

I am not familiar with the model you suggested do you have more information on it? The Totem Model 1 Signature (purchased used) in Canada is not expensive, they cost around 1500 Canadian a pair which is quite affordable and I found that they sound quite good with the Bryston 4B-SST.

Tuan,

The Model-1 Signature is a lovely speaker indeed. The only thing is it likes its power so it's a good thing you have that nice big Bryston.

Sorry, I meant the Velodyne SPL800R. It's a dinky little sub with just an 8 inch drive unit. It also has a simple version of their room EQ software which works quite effectively. The cabinet is a perspex box with rounded edges. It's really strong and since it's built in just a couple of pieces, it has great integrity and little sonic signature.

The amp is a class D 1000W RMS affair. Frequency response goes down to 26hz (-3db). You need an SPL1000R for 23hz or and SPL1200R for 21hz.

Due to its small size and effective performance, the 800 is their best selling sub here in the UK. It's a fine sub which works very well and which has no obvious character of its own.

Of course if you want crazy with the very best room EQ technology available, you'd have to look at Velodyne's DD range. The DD-10 or DD-12 are amazing subs. Even the little DD-10 goes down to 18hz (-3db), and they have a far more sophisticated room EQ program built in.

Thank you Frank. I think the SPL800R will be ideal for me.

does anyone know if thn n-vi is multi region, am going to have a listen to one today