Basic laptop question
Posted by: Bruce Woodhouse on 04 October 2009
We need a new laptop at home, the old Dell we have is now so old it is utterly stalled doing anything complex.
I hate buying computers due to feeling more or less bemused by the choice. I have a decent basic knowledge of computers but tend to look away in between purchases, this means it takes ages to 'catch up' with current specs.
I don't expect a recomendation from the forumites but more advice on brands. The machine does not need to be ultra portable (it stays at home mostly but gets moved about the house) or ultra durable (not heavily used) but the old Dell seemed pretty flimsy. Budget is £400-500.
Can anyone advise if Dell laptops are still a reasonable choice, if not which brand ranges should I browse? I've also used Dabs before for computer stuff, any other good websites with value but also reliable service? Better to buy direct (ie MESH or Acer?)
Bruce
Posted on: 05 October 2009 by Roy T
Bruce, if this is to be used for simple surfing, beging letters, emails rather than video encoding / decoding, hardcore photo manipulation then most will be up to the task. As to brand I have found Lenovo to be worth a look but others may catch your eye.
Best of luck.
Posted on: 05 October 2009 by nap-ster
I'm sure there will be many suggestions but I'll second Lenovo.
You can buy direct from them. Lenovo is the company that bought the IBM PC brand from IBM.
Posted on: 05 October 2009 by Don Phillips
Bruce,
I have just experienced some poor after sales service from Hewlett Packard following a design fault. They don't want to know and keep fobbing me off.
I don't know how computer literate you are, I guess not everso by your description. But the problem with laptops seems to be the amount of rubbish you get pre-loaded on them.
I have helped out a number of friends and wife's friends in recent months by getting a new laptop and taking off all the unnecessary programmes - aspects of Windows and third party rubbish. Doing this makes them run a lot faster. Get the shop/a friend to do this.
Also make sure that you have at least 2GB of Ram if you have Vista. Cheaper laptops use some of their RAM to run the video I believe, so what you actually have to use for programmes is less in practice than it says on the box.
If you buy now you should get Vista loaded on it with an undertaking to upgrade to Windows 7 free. Check this out.
You do not need to spend a lot on having a large hard disk in your machine for everyday use - you can always plug in an external hard drive later.
Also, and this is a personal grudge. Most laptops seem to be pre-loaded with Norton antivirus, which you then have to pay for. I am told that it is now better than it was, but in the past I have found Norton to be like a virus itself - difficult to get rid of, and slows the system down.
Better to use Avira Free or AVG Free, which are, err, free.
Better to use a free firewall (e.g. Zonealarm Free) in preference to the Windows one.
A bit like hifi really - with a bit of tweaking a medium spec machine can perform better than poorly set up expensive kit.
HTH
Don overcast downtown York.
Posted on: 05 October 2009 by Bruce Woodhouse
Thanks Don
I do indeed strip out the rubbish from a new computer. I run Norton on my desktop so have this anyway for use on the laptop.
We have a big capacity back up storage drive already too.
I'm more keen to get a nice screen and decent speed with handling images-some at quite high res (my wife is an artist and stores lots of scanned files).
Bruce
Posted on: 05 October 2009 by Don Atkinson
Bruce
FWIW, I have bought three lap tops (Mrs D Miss D one and Miss D Three. I bought IBM (now Lenovo) twice and Apple once. All have been excellent.
The IBMs were both from the "R" series and represent really good value. They are heavier than the "T" and other series - but this isn't a big issue for me and shouldn't bother you.
IBM fixed a DVD drive problem on my daughter's (I had a 3 year next business day warranty because she was at Newcastle Uni - too far to travel to fix myself) so no problem with support. Machine is now more than 5 years old
Mrs D's is about 3 years old and hasn't had any problems - touch-wood!! bought it from Toye who were very nice to deal with
The Apple is only about one year old (MacBook Pro) but cost about £1,500 so is very expensive. bought it direct from Apple.
For a PC Laptop I can certainly recommend IBM, but you do need to read the specs very carefully to know what you are getting, and the price shoots up as you keep adding little "extras"
Cheers
Don