Motorway Madness

Fast lane honda S2000 driver.

Even faster lane, Kwak ZX9R rider ;-)

Mark

Astute - unless overtaking.

I was stuck behind one of these morons on the M6 toll this evening. The outside lane wasn't clear for me to pull into (I was doing 85-90 but there were others doing 90+) and he's was doing just under 70, so I main-beamed him from behind. He still refused to budge into the empty inside lane. Eventually the outside lane became clear so I passed him and then moved into the inside lane fairly promptly to make the point.

You flash the twats and they still don't fucking move! Obviously it's not just being dozy, it's plain bloody willfulness.

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Originally posted by Nime:
LONG CUSTODIAL SENTENCE EXPECTED.

Custodial sentence deserved

Chaps

I do not think he deserves a custodial sentence but without doubt he should be banned from driving for a very long time.

His credibility as one who is able to judge when it is safe to do things such as driving in excess of speed limits is well and truely shot.

This is the best advert for demonstrating that those who think they are safe drivers are just the opposite.

Regards

Mick

Mick,

I agree, mine was a bit of a bit of a reactive comment there and there are better ways to deal with abusive drivers than jailing them (initially). Flogging, stoning or flailing for example

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I do not think he deserves a custodial sentence but without doubt he should be banned from driving for a very long time.

as long as you're talking about the idiot sitting in the middle lane then you're perfectly correct.
It wasn't you was it Mick?

Merto

You jest about corporal punishment for those such as Toy but I think it has its place.

Toy definately should be banned, what he did was plain stupid.

If he is banned, he loses his job and ceases to pay tax etc. Also he would gain a criminal record which can now last for life with the CRB.

He should be given a choice, have the ban inflicted upon him with the records kept, or be taken out of the Magistrates court and have six strokes of the birch with no no records being kept, so he would still have a clean sheet.

It should be his choice, a ban / criminal record versus a birching and no criminal record.
The birching would be his choice and would not be inflicted on him against his will.

I very much doubt if he would drive reckless ever again. His ass would be bleeding for days after that.

John

There is no excuse for what Toy did, no excuse whatsoever.

Regards

Mick

Mick,

Bit harsh for overtaking on a motorway, wouldn't you say? I suspect you've been on the piss again...

EW

Very slow second hand Clio 1.2 driver.

"Ride to live, live to ride"

Or not....................

Fantastic, another thread about driving.

It's my turn to get in first, to say that breaking the speed limit is OK and point everyone to this website:

http://www.safespeed.org.uk/index1.html

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Originally posted by Earwicker:
Mick,

Bit harsh for overtaking on a motorway, wouldn't you say? I suspect you've been on the piss again...

EW

Toy volunteered the information that he menaced and attempted to intimidate a driver travelling at the legal speed limit. He admitted doing so simply because he himself was afraid to use the overtaking lane because other drivers were going even faster than he was.

The continued use of the middle lane when the inside lane is empty is pointless, unsafe and selfish. But when driving at the speed limit this should mean that nobody else would ever be impeded. Because no other vehicle, travelling at the legal speed limit, would ever catch up with the middle lane hog.

Nime,

Okay, but it's hardly the crime of the century!

FWIW, the speed limit is ridiculous and anyone who knowingly impedes the progress of other motorists should be smeared with jam and exposed to angry wasps!

EW

Mick

Regardless of the actions taken by ST or the other "fast lane" users, the actions of the driver in the middle lane were inexcusable.

The highway code (rule 238 I believe) clearly states that a driver should use the lefthand lane at all times when available.

If anything, ALL parties mentioned were driving with disregard to the law.

Hanging and flogging aside, we should all learn a little more respect for each other whilst driving.

Spock

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Originally posted by Spock:
Hanging and flogging aside, we should all learn a little more respect for each other whilst driving.

Spock

Indeed. By the way, I wonder if Mick's taking a taxi this afternoon, given that he intends to fill himself with booze? You have to wonder...

EW

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There is no excuse for what Toy did, no excuse whatsoever.

so you think flashing your lights to wake up some daft git who isn't paying attention to the road and as such shouldn't really be on it should be made a hanging offence?

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Originally posted by John Sheridan:
so you think flashing your lights to wake up some daft git who isn't paying attention to the road and as such shouldn't really be on it should be made a hanging offence?

Letting someone know you are there is one thing, cutting them up to prove a point is another issue entirely. If the middle lane hog was considered such a bad driver (and yes, it is bad driving) surely its better to give them a wide birth than to provoke them? You may well consider yourself a much better driver but potentially causing a multi vehicle pile up (remember there was a line of 85 - 90mph vehicles passing) does not support that view.

Define "daft git" in these circumstances?

Middle lane hogs driving at 70mph are only a menace to law-breakers. (and very rarely emergency vehicles)

You can argue the converse until the cows come home.

Nobody will ever catch up with someone keeping strictly to the speed limit whichever lane they (or you) are driving in. It is physically impossible provided all drivers stick to the speed limit. This isn't pedantry or opinion. It is fact.

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Originally posted by Merto:
cutting them up to prove a point is another issue entirely.

doesn't that all depend on what Mr Toy meant by 'promptly'? All drivers should move promptly back to the left after overtaking.

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Originally posted by Nime
Define "daft git" in these circumstances?...
Middle lane hogs driving at 70mph are only a menace to law-breakers.

well you for one as you don't seem to realise the speedometers only have to be accurate to within 10% so your indicated 70mph might only be 63mph.

Now why didn't I think of that? Everybody baulking everybody in the middle lane has a fast reading speedometer. While all those speeding have slow reading speedometers!

Simple really. Except for all those hated cameras and mobile radar speed checks and police patrol vehicles prove that most speedometers are actually quite accurate. So the only real error lies somewhere between the ears of those behind the wheel.

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Originally posted by John Sheridan:
doesn't that all depend on what Mr Toy meant by 'promptly'? All drivers should move promptly back to the left after overtaking.

True though I suspect that in the context of the post it was meant as rather more promptly than might a more courteous driver. If not then I apologise for my asssumption.

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Originally posted by John Sheridan:
speedometers only have to be accurate to within 10% so your indicated 70mph might only be 63mph.

Or 77mph?

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Or 77mph?

at time of manufacture the tolerance is -10%/+0% - ie you can't be going faster than what your speedo says. Of course that doesn't mean you can't mess around with your wheels/tyres and produce some interesting readings.