LP12 vs CDS2

Posted by: Alex S. on 26 July 2001

Today I had a bit of fun comparing my LP12 with my CDS2

The LP12 is Lidless, Baseboardless, Lingoed, new motored, serviced, ittoked, DV20Xed, sitting on cones on Base on Sound org 5 tier rack (with Lingo in bottom shelf).

My CDS2 is partnered by CDSPS not XPS.

Other equipment is: 82/super, 2 250s, N805s on Granite stands on Mana Soundbases, Grahams mains Hydra, all Naim Burndys Snaics etc apart from Chord Cobra2 CD interconnect and Cabletalk 4.1 speaker cable. I've got acoustic foam splattered all over the walls and Base racks.

I don't have too many vinyl/CD duplicates but I did dig out Mahler's No2 (Klemperer/Philarmonia), Deep Purple's Machine Head and Beloved's Conscience.

This sounds like damning with faint praise but at last my LP12 has found a worthwhile partner if not a perfect match. This just goes to show how damn good even a medium spec analogue source is. The CDS2 makes an excellent fist of a musical, analogue sound - well spaced instruments, the best bottom end I've heard on CD replay; its a quiet player - no digital hash here, but the top end lacks a little of the sparkle of the best analogue I've heard (not mine). It is a big improvement over my CDX - less fatiguing, more involving, much more smile on face making - and it makes the CDX top and bottom end seem a little uncouth.

The opening cellos on Mahler's second had all the oomph you'd want with both sources although better spacing with the LP12 - I suspect this is a problem with EMI's rather poor CD transfer than with the CDS2.

My CDX used to make a right mess of John Lord's organ (titter) on Lazy but both sources on test here really made sense of this track with all the PRaT you could ask.

My Beloved Conscience was very clear.

Posted on: 30 July 2001 by Mick P
Mark

How are you doing.........long time no speak.

Ok.....Your post dated X refers.

All this means is........in answer to the points raised in your post of date x.

Its just a phrase which has been used as long as I can remember.

I think the internet will kill such phrases off.

When I worked for the M.O.D, we used to finish off with the expression......I am Sir and remain, your humble and obedient servant.

I used to love signing off like that after giving some supplier the bollicking of his lifetime.

Regards

Mick

Posted on: 30 July 2001 by Sproggle
Mark

quote:
...and this from someone (me) who recently emailed the BBC because they spelt "excellence" wrong on Watchdog Healthcheck...

No doubt you deliberately but wrongly wrote "wrong" instead of "wrongly" so that I could I make a joke about it. wink

--Jeremy

Posted on: 31 July 2001 by MarkEJ
Absolutely Mr. Sproggle, I didn't ought to have done that. All me grammar is now slidy most in the wetty gripper -- Arse! mad

Best;

Mark
(wiping away egg in order to improve visibility & breathing...)

(an imperfect
forum environment is
better than none)

Posted on: 02 August 2001 by Mick P
Ian old chap

I have never, to my recollection, been described as a troll by a moderator of this forum.......whereas you....now how many times.

You, Mr Wright, are troll par excellance.

Regards

Mick

Posted on: 02 August 2001 by DLF
Any other forums we should know about Mick wink
Posted on: 02 August 2001 by Sproggle
quote:
All me grammar is now slidy most in the wetty gripper

I never did quite get grabble the unstanwinley way of think-a-mole but I wouldn't worrybold too much when so many peeps put the postrafofle's in the pluraloopsup's [e.g. CD's LP's NBL's]. smile

--Jeremy

Posted on: 02 August 2001 by Mick P
Ian old chap,

It takes one to know one........IW

Well at least you now admit to being one, so yes I forgive you and we can be friends.

Do you live near Swindon, if so you can come around and listen to my "Huttered" system. You may be pleasantly surprised.

Regards

Mick

Posted on: 02 August 2001 by Mick P
Piggy

Unlike you, I know that I do not have a knackered 250, my tweeters are ok and my TT works. Chances are that some of your other stuff is buggered as well but you are too dim to notice.

Actually Piggy, in a spirit of "niceness", I could invite you along as well, you should always find out what the other half sounds like. I do not believe that you have ever heard a Huttered system so now is your chance.

So there you are Piggy........you now have an open invitation.

Regards

Mick

Posted on: 03 August 2001 by Alex S.
I should not wish for too many trolls under one roof.

Come and listen to my Base instead. Mick, why don't you come along too. When are you free Ian?

Posted on: 03 August 2001 by ken c
So there you are Piggy........you now have an open invitation.

then you will probably stop your, ehrrrrm, "interesting", e-fights? i would definitely suffer withdrawal symptoms...

enjoy

ken

Posted on: 03 August 2001 by Mick P
Alex

I get up to London (Barbican) fairly often.....whereabouts are you. Be nice to fit in a visit

Regards

Mick

Posted on: 04 August 2001 by Alex S.
Mick - I've just done some work at the Barbican - I'm about 20 mins drive on a good day. Your'e always welcome (with whiskey of course).
Posted on: 11 August 2001 by Eric Barry
Met,

I think Funhouse is just about the best rock record ever, but I have some qualms about your use of the cd version to compare lp vs. vinyl formats.

The cd version is pretty bad sounding and I don't think it would beat any lp copy even on a modest turntable like a Music Hall. The remix job on the Funhouse sessions box set (now sadly out of print) improves on the standard issue Elektra cd. However, the lp copies I have, an 80s issue with red/black label, and a Canadian gatefold butterfly label (especially) are in a different league altogether. I am still searching for a reasonably priced US original which I am sure will be the best.

Apparently Sundazed is working on securing the rights to do a vinyl reissue to go with their other forthcoming late-60s Elektra reissues (Love, MC5, Butterfield Blues Band). Given their high standard, I am sure this too will be worth owning.

--Eric