Science and Life

... or a "by-product" ?

Whatever you are, enjoy it !

Nope. Just an accident of birth.

Ah - a sexually transmitted disease then .........

Thank you guys. I am always less confused after I check things on the forum.

Fredrik

The nature that your parent's exchanged genetic material may well have been an unplanned event or "accident" but the natural events that followed were anything but random or unplanned.

The deliberate actions of nature resulted in you and you should commend your parents and/or the views of society of the time to ensure your very existence.

Without you, I would not be writing this reply and my very being may well be different in the future..........

Fredrik

You seem to be harbouring some anger. Let it go and live in in peace. Anger, like worry, changes nothing in the past or the future. But can often damage the present. Letting go of your anger releases their power over you and removes their ability to hurt you again.

All anger is related to injustice - perceived injustice or real injustice.

Anger serves an important place in the world and in people's lives.

Holy crap Fredrik! Great power lies dormant at the hand of a transparent man.

Salut!

Jeez Frederik that's some heavy stuff. I too didn't get on with my father and didn't get a chance to resolve our differences before he died. In fact I hadn't spoken to him for two years before I was identifying him on the mortuary slab twenty seven years ago. He was an extremely intelligent man who wasn't able to go to university because the family was virtually destitute. Rather than being glad he'd been able to make this possible for me he carried an incredible grudge against me and detested all aspects of university life (both real and the way he imagined my life in the early seventies). I wish he'd lived long enough to meet his grandchildren because I'm sure it would have softened his opinion of me. My main regret though is that I didn't get a chance to tell him what an ignorant bastard he was and deck him one.
Sorry if that sounds callous but life's not always a bed of roses.

Yeah, just enjoy the ride while your DNA seeks replication. Your DNA will sort out where the bed is, never mind the roses.

All people are victims of their own circumstances. Imagine the misery of parents whose lives were changed forever by war? The lost hopes and dreams by the millions affected by others' evil or careless actions. Life is an ever branching tree. Decisions are not good or bad, just choices made. Often without thought or reason.

The unexpected child springing from passion when an education or career was really the highest priority. Different times that were less accepting of children out of wedlock and abortion virtually unavailable. Or illegal and incredibly risky.

Releasing the anger you feel for things said and things done in the past can help you live with yourself in the present. Some parents are bastards and some are idiots. But you don't have to forgive them to be happier. Nor even make friends with them again. You just have to accept that they are (or were) other than what you might have hoped in an imperfect world.

It is you yourself setting higher standards than they were able to achieve under their own set of circumstances with their own set of abilities, drives and motives. Just let it all go and accept they were not perfect. Any more than you are yourself.

Trying to be an angel, because a parent was not, is no better than trying to be a gangster because your parents were too nice. You can only live your own life. The power to live others lives for them is very fortunately denied to most of us.

You cannot equate intelligence with the ability to achieve anything. Any more than you can blame strength of will for all the harm it can do. Many a child of rich parents goes astray despite having all that most others hold dear.

Given enough siblings (of exactly the same parents) you can always find an angel, a doctor, a gangster, a layabout, a nurse, a slut or a nun. Which are you?

Nime

Do you live up to this philosophy yourself?

I'm the fourth, by the way. But one day, when I rule the world, I shall make sure I draw a salary so no one can say I'm not earning my keep.

Deane

Fourth?
Oh you mean the layabout?

And i thought this forum was a load of bollocks,fit for no more than a laugh,and there you go proving me wrong.

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Originally posted by KRO:
And i thought this forum was a load of bollocks,fit for no more than a laugh,and there you go proving me wrong.

You can't say "wrong" on the forum unless it is about somebody else. There have to be some rules here or everything will fall apart.

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Originally posted by KRO:
And i thought this forum was a load of bollocks,fit for no more than a laugh,and there you go proving me wrong.

Thank goodness Deano's existential wallowing touches some of us.

Thank you Nime. I am but a dung beetle trying to understand the creator of my dinner.