HDX magazine review.
Posted by: gary yeowell on 21 August 2008
Read an interesting article today, not sure of the mag, might have been Hifi News, but the reviewer made a very bold statement by saying that ripped CD's through the HDX/XPS2 was better than a CDS.... he did not say which CDS, but anyhow that's quite a bold statement and he was playing it through active DBL's so quite a revealing system.
I always take these opinions with a pinch of salt when they come from the comics, but you have to have something to read in Borders whilst drinking Starbuck's coffee. Just wondered if anyone had heard an HDX vs a good CD player and come to similar conclusions. It would seem that Linn are making similarly bold statements, bolder in fact, by stating the Linn DS is better than any CD player.
Gary.
Posted on: 27 August 2008 by pcstockton
At this high level of performance I do not find it necessary to pit rips versus cds. Great CD replay is stunning as we all know. Lossless to a decent DAC is also very engaging.
We all keep reading reviews stating how "close" it is to their CDX2 or 5x, or even 555!!
I am sure the differences in quality are minimal. This makes the presentation and process the areas to place value.
Some people prefer to actually pull out the disc and peruse the liner notes while enjoying. Others like to flip the record over, gently lower the arm, and truly become a part of the experience.
Others like to double click on John Zorn and have over 100 albums instantly collect into a playlist that will play randomly all night long.
It only need be understood that at a high level of quality and performance, all three major sources for music replay are musical, engaging, and worthwhile.
Posted on: 27 August 2008 by kuma
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If I want to hear what is on the recording, I’d still use a DAC1.
I guess I can't handle the truth.

Posted on: 27 August 2008 by Steve S1
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Originally posted by pcstockton:
I am sure the differences in quality are minimal. This makes the presentation and process the areas to place value.
I agree Patrick.
Small movements in speaker position have made far more obvious differences, than worrying about tiny differences in digital source presentation.
Kuma,
Bit of a selective quote there, Pete then immediately says "an accurate sound is not always the best sound". It's like analogue all over again.

No amount of anyone telling me the DAC1 is accurate, makes it work for me either.
Steve
Posted on: 27 August 2008 by kuma
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Originally posted by Steve S1:
Bit of a selective quote there, Pete then immediately says "an accurate sound is not always the best sound". It's like analogue all over again.
Or valve!
Valve + analogue= what accuracy?

Posted on: 28 August 2008 by tonym
quote:
Originally posted by pcstockton:
At this high level of performance I do not find it necessary to pit rips versus cds. Great CD replay is stunning as we all know. Lossless to a decent DAC is also very engaging.
We all keep reading reviews stating how "close" it is to their CDX2 or 5x, or even 555!!
I am sure the differences in quality are minimal. This makes the presentation and process the areas to place value.
Some people prefer to actually pull out the disc and peruse the liner notes while enjoying. Others like to flip the record over, gently lower the arm, and truly become a part of the experience.
Others like to double click on John Zorn and have over 100 albums instantly collect into a playlist that will play randomly all night long.
It only need be understood that at a high level of quality and performance, all three major sources for music replay are musical, engaging, and worthwhile.
Quite so, pcstockton!

Posted on: 28 August 2008 by pjl
I know this is a bit late in the day, but having just got around to reading the HFC review of the HDX I felt I had to express my astonishment. It is just about the most worthless review of any piece of hi-hi that I've ever seen printed. Aside from the factual points, which are easily obtainable from Naim, it tells us nothing useful whatsoever. One might reasonably expect it to have been compared to currently produced CD players (Naim and otherwise) and perhaps the likes of a Macbook/DAC combination. All in the context of a modern (Naim) system. Instead we learn that, used in a mostly obsolete Naim system, it is better in several ways than a 20yr old long since obsolete Naim CD player! Very useful indeed.
Peter
Posted on: 29 August 2008 by jon h
CDS1 is *not* "obsolete". It plays CDs just as well as the day it was released.
Posted on: 29 August 2008 by pjl
Jon, perhaps my choice of words was inappropriate. The CDS was/is a great player. My point is that comparing the HDX to it is not useful for most people since it is no longer available to buy new, and things have advanced significantly in CD replay since then. Most people will want to know how the HDX compares to a CDX2/CDS3 etc. ie. currently manufactured gear.
Peter
Posted on: 29 August 2008 by Klout10
Second! I absolutely agree with you...
Regards,
Michel
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Originally posted by pjl:
Jon, perhaps my choice of words was inappropriate. The CDS was/is a great player. My point is that comparing the HDX to it is not useful for most people since it is no longer available to buy new, and things have advanced significantly in CD replay since then. Most people will want to know how the HDX compares to a CDX2/CDS3 etc. ie. currently manufactured gear.
Peter