Internet Explorer No 7
Posted by: Mick P on 09 December 2006
Chaps
My computer is XP and I keep getting a prompt to download IE7.
Is it any good and worth doing or do any of you have any reservations.
Regards
Mick
My computer is XP and I keep getting a prompt to download IE7.
Is it any good and worth doing or do any of you have any reservations.
Regards
Mick
Posted on: 09 December 2006 by garyi
Its as shit as the past 6.
Looks pretty though.
Looks pretty though.
Posted on: 09 December 2006 by Deane F
I agree with garyi. It looks pretty but I much prefer Firefox.
Bit of a cheek to call it a High Priority Update too - does that mean that a fully patched IE6 is still a security risk?
Bit of a cheek to call it a High Priority Update too - does that mean that a fully patched IE6 is still a security risk?
Posted on: 09 December 2006 by Adam Meredith
I've been running it for some months and appreciate the tabbed pages (which Opera and Firefox have had forever). Apart from that - there doesn't seem much "must have" about it. I find it works well - if bloated.
I downloaded Firefox to see what the fuss was about. Smaller, quicker but with some annoying omissions and another small application (like CD burning, Bluetooth, wireless networking and so on) which requires some tedious study before being semi-mastered. Having put work into Internet Explorer (and it needs some) I find the differences on the negative side (like using Apples) and plod on in Microsoft ignorance.
Of course - Firefox et al are not Microsoft - which is good if you are that way inclined.
I downloaded Firefox to see what the fuss was about. Smaller, quicker but with some annoying omissions and another small application (like CD burning, Bluetooth, wireless networking and so on) which requires some tedious study before being semi-mastered. Having put work into Internet Explorer (and it needs some) I find the differences on the negative side (like using Apples) and plod on in Microsoft ignorance.
Of course - Firefox et al are not Microsoft - which is good if you are that way inclined.
Posted on: 09 December 2006 by andy c
Have used mozilla and firefox - I have got used to mozilla - IE7 is playing catchup but i also seek solace in the fact that viruses don't seem to be as attracted to mozilla? (can one of the better It guru's here explain this bit to me?)
cheers
cheers
Posted on: 09 December 2006 by Bob McC
Mick
I downloaded it after all the hype. Yes it has tabbed browsing - big deal! I found that it messed up quite a few settings and I kept getting error messages at switch on and close down so I got rid of it and returned to IE6.
I downloaded it after all the hype. Yes it has tabbed browsing - big deal! I found that it messed up quite a few settings and I kept getting error messages at switch on and close down so I got rid of it and returned to IE6.
Posted on: 09 December 2006 by Mick P
Chaps
What is tabbed browsing ?
I have to say that it dosen't seem to be all that fantastic from what you are saying.
Regards
Mick
What is tabbed browsing ?
I have to say that it dosen't seem to be all that fantastic from what you are saying.
Regards
Mick
Posted on: 09 December 2006 by Deane F
Mick
If you have a scroll wheel on your mouse it will also (likely) be a third button if depressed rather than rolled. If you select a link with your mouse and press the third button then the link will open in a "tab". This means that you can select several pages of interest and flick from one to the other, wait for them to load while reading one (useful for news pages), compare the content of different pages - that sort of thing. This obviates the necessity of opening several windows and it is much easier to move between the pages you have opened in tabs.
If you have a scroll wheel on your mouse it will also (likely) be a third button if depressed rather than rolled. If you select a link with your mouse and press the third button then the link will open in a "tab". This means that you can select several pages of interest and flick from one to the other, wait for them to load while reading one (useful for news pages), compare the content of different pages - that sort of thing. This obviates the necessity of opening several windows and it is much easier to move between the pages you have opened in tabs.
Posted on: 09 December 2006 by Deane F
Now that I am used to tabbed browsing I couldn't surf without it.
Posted on: 09 December 2006 by Beano
A screen shot of what tabbed browsing looks like, notice the 4 pages in tabs.
I've found it works a treat with no issues at all, apart from the phishing filter which is too slow at returning a result!
I've found it works a treat with no issues at all, apart from the phishing filter which is too slow at returning a result!

Posted on: 09 December 2006 by Adam Meredith
quote:apart from the phishing filter
Yes - that did slow things down. Now switched to "on demand".
Posted on: 09 December 2006 by Phil Barry
I'd go with Firefox myself, but it's soooo slooowwww loading the 1st page. But IE7 is not not much better than IE6, and it has a significant learning curve.
Phil
Phil
Posted on: 09 December 2006 by BigH47
Adam
I don't see an "on demand" setting can you please explain?
Howard
quote:Yes - that did slow things down. Now switched to "on demand".
I don't see an "on demand" setting can you please explain?
Howard
Posted on: 09 December 2006 by Steve G
I've got IE7 on my laptop, IE6 on my desktops and use Firefox on my Linux boxes. They're all ok but I prefer IE7 as I prefer it's implementation of tabbed pages.
Posted on: 09 December 2006 by NaimDropper
IE7 required essentially no change in my computer usage over IE6 except some things are in slightly different places.
Just drink the uSoft Kool-Aid and download it. No big deal.
David
Just drink the uSoft Kool-Aid and download it. No big deal.
David
Posted on: 09 December 2006 by garyi
I was not purposly having a bash but IE7 was simply for the dumb masses who know no better. There is nothing of interest in it that all other browsers havn't been doing for at least 2 years.
For someone like me who never 'got' tabbed browsing all that IE7 has on offer is RSS feeds, which seems to be so last year any way, most of all RSS feeds are in some for of a widget any how.
I downloaded it because it kept on at me like XP does. I am so glad I do not have it as a permanent home OS solution.
For someone like me who never 'got' tabbed browsing all that IE7 has on offer is RSS feeds, which seems to be so last year any way, most of all RSS feeds are in some for of a widget any how.
I downloaded it because it kept on at me like XP does. I am so glad I do not have it as a permanent home OS solution.
Posted on: 10 December 2006 by Fozz
Much prefer firefox for day to day browsing but have to use IE as usual for certain sites that just will not work with firefox! The IE7 does have one great improvement, the quality of text rendering is much much better than firefox.
Gary
Gary
Posted on: 10 December 2006 by ewemon
quote:Originally posted by Fozz:
Much prefer firefox for day to day browsing but have to use IE as usual for certain sites that just will not work with firefox! The IE7 does have one great improvement, the quality of text rendering is much much better than firefox.
Gary
I use Avant because as I see it Firefox and Opera have 2 probs. One is they both won't load certain web pages (or some web sites aren't set up for them) and secondly you need to download a lot of plug ins. Avant is faster than either, uses IE main engine, has tabbed browsing and has a great forum. Basically it is easy to use.
Remember one thing IE has security issues which Avant will have as well but if you are careful with your security settings you will usually be fine.
As regards IE7, Microsoft are preparing the way for Vista next year.
As I get Microsoft newsletters one word of caution for everyone. If you get a computer with Vista installed and Micorsoft do their usual updates then their Genuine validation tool will automatically tell them if you are using pirated software and BLOCK the pirated programmes so you can't use them. That means any Microsoft programme you get a copy of from a friend may not be usuable in your computer as you will have to validate them online and GVT will recognise they are registered to someone else. License issues.
Lets see it in practice first but that is the intention.
Microsoft currently know through their GVT how many of us run Microsoft programmes that are pirated.
So beware Big Brother is watching you!!!
Posted on: 10 December 2006 by JWM
I have had no problems with IE7. (But then, being computer illiterate, I don't really know what I'm talking about. I just press the buttons and it works fine.)
James
James
Posted on: 10 December 2006 by northpole
I'll show my complete ignorance here - I run a mac at home & the office system is pc.
I did have MS Explorer at home but changing to Safari has been a revelation. The computer works much faster with Safari and the Bookmark system of drop down tabs (Favourites equivalent) is much easier to manage and quicker in use.
Where I am not sure is if Safari is only available on macs. Shame if it is.
Peter
I did have MS Explorer at home but changing to Safari has been a revelation. The computer works much faster with Safari and the Bookmark system of drop down tabs (Favourites equivalent) is much easier to manage and quicker in use.
Where I am not sure is if Safari is only available on macs. Shame if it is.
Peter
Posted on: 11 December 2006 by Nuno Baptista
I´m using Firefox and is fast and simple!
Posted on: 12 December 2006 by ewemon
Thought you all might to know about this.
This is something I got from a software company allied to Microsoft today re VISTA.
Can Vista's Anti-Piracy Mechanism be Cracked?
Rumors abound this week of cracking tools that are designed to defeat the Vista product activation feature, which would allow software pirates to use illegal copies of the operating system. The tools are out there, but sources say they won't work on consumer versions of Vista, just those distributed through volume licensing. And the crack would have to be reapplied every 180 days. The worst part, for consumers, is that Microsoft's natural reaction to such cracks will probably be to make product activation more burdensome. As usual, those of us who abide by the rules will pay the price because of those who don't.
This is something I got from a software company allied to Microsoft today re VISTA.
Can Vista's Anti-Piracy Mechanism be Cracked?
Rumors abound this week of cracking tools that are designed to defeat the Vista product activation feature, which would allow software pirates to use illegal copies of the operating system. The tools are out there, but sources say they won't work on consumer versions of Vista, just those distributed through volume licensing. And the crack would have to be reapplied every 180 days. The worst part, for consumers, is that Microsoft's natural reaction to such cracks will probably be to make product activation more burdensome. As usual, those of us who abide by the rules will pay the price because of those who don't.
Posted on: 12 December 2006 by J.N.
I'm happy with IE7, but it displayed HTML (text) in 'Clear Type' by default.
This gave an inferior display quality on my LCD monitor, and after some advice I disabled it via 'Tools/Internet Options/Advanced/Multimedia'.
No other complaints.
John.
This gave an inferior display quality on my LCD monitor, and after some advice I disabled it via 'Tools/Internet Options/Advanced/Multimedia'.
No other complaints.
John.
Posted on: 13 December 2006 by Peter C
IE7 is ok nothing special, Firefox is a lot better and tabbed browsing is a real bonus.
Stills lacks the convenience of Mouse gestures, standard in Opera and an extension for Firefox.
On the odd occasion I use Windows Xp, my browser of choice is Firefox because its quicker and WGA/Automatic Update are such a pain in the arse. They slow your PC up
As ewemon points out, law abiding users of Xp and Vista pay the price for Microsoft's heavy handed and burdensome attempts to make their activation feature more secure.
They would be better off spending their time patching the serious security flaws known to hackers that exist in windows, thereby making the operating system itself safer.
Stills lacks the convenience of Mouse gestures, standard in Opera and an extension for Firefox.
On the odd occasion I use Windows Xp, my browser of choice is Firefox because its quicker and WGA/Automatic Update are such a pain in the arse. They slow your PC up
As ewemon points out, law abiding users of Xp and Vista pay the price for Microsoft's heavy handed and burdensome attempts to make their activation feature more secure.
They would be better off spending their time patching the serious security flaws known to hackers that exist in windows, thereby making the operating system itself safer.