Record cleaning once again
Posted by: garyi on 08 June 2002
OK have scowered the length and bredth of both watford and St Albuns, no one does Isaproprenol (sorry bout the spelling)
Assuming the lady in boots was correct and its no longer allowed to be sold over the counter what wouuld be the next best thing for use in the mix?
What are the problems with using say White spirt, Lighter fluid or Meths?
Cheers.
Assuming the lady in boots was correct and its no longer allowed to be sold over the counter what wouuld be the next best thing for use in the mix?
What are the problems with using say White spirt, Lighter fluid or Meths?
Cheers.
Posted on: 09 June 2002 by Not For Me
I get mine from my local village pharmacy, part of the Lloyds chain.
Try your local chemist - try might be able to help more than Boots can.
DS
Try your local chemist - try might be able to help more than Boots can.
DS
Posted on: 09 June 2002 by pm
My Boots pharmacist told me it was due to H&S storage requirements needing more stringent criteria etc etc.
But, like others, I find that some smaller pharmacies are a little more...... errr.... relaxed.... about those requirements!
He was keen to know what I wanted it for though!! It seems as though it's used in the production of cannabis resin...... so a friend tells me......
But, like others, I find that some smaller pharmacies are a little more...... errr.... relaxed.... about those requirements!
He was keen to know what I wanted it for though!! It seems as though it's used in the production of cannabis resin...... so a friend tells me......
Posted on: 10 June 2002 by Laurie Saunders
You can get Isopropyl Alcohol (IPA)(or propan- 1-ol) quite cheaply from ARD Electronics.. sold as a general purpose solvent/cleaner for about £3.99/litre I think.
(ARD have a web site & will send you a catalogue...very good sevice)
It is not a good idea to use other solvents(especially acetone) as these may also dissolve plastics/adhesives used in cartridges etc.
Peculiar that some chemists are worried about health and safety...IPA is far less flammable than say, methylated spirits
cheers Laurie S
(ARD have a web site & will send you a catalogue...very good sevice)
It is not a good idea to use other solvents(especially acetone) as these may also dissolve plastics/adhesives used in cartridges etc.
Peculiar that some chemists are worried about health and safety...IPA is far less flammable than say, methylated spirits
cheers Laurie S
Posted on: 10 June 2002 by David Stewart
quote:
Peculiar that some chemists are worried about health and safety...IPA is far less flammable than say, methylated spirits
I think it has a lot to do with the 'busy-bodies' in Brussels who seem to believe we're not safe to be let out with anything stronger than a cup of weak tea! All this because a few brainless twits manage to injure themselves or others.
Over the last 5 years or more, a lot of very effective chemical agents have been removed from products available on the retail market. In most cases they've been replaced with 'wussy' subsitutes that no longer do the job and cost twice as much - the onward march of progress??
David
Posted on: 10 June 2002 by Alex S.
I would need to go to ridiculous trouble to get a license to stock meths without the stupid pink dye and noxious smell. Luckily, there are bootleg supplies at my local art shop.
The problem I've found with Isopropyl from my normal sources is I'd have to buy 5 litres of it. When mixed up/diluted I reckon I could clean the whole of Watford's vinyl with that amount.
Alex
The problem I've found with Isopropyl from my normal sources is I'd have to buy 5 litres of it. When mixed up/diluted I reckon I could clean the whole of Watford's vinyl with that amount.
Alex
Posted on: 10 June 2002 by Martin M
Gary, in my experience using Isopropyl Alcohol on LPs is a hit and miss affair. I've had and good and bad results using thi with an Keith Monks machine. So, I'm not so sure that such a vigorous de-greaser is a good idea. Having said that, I am merely regurgitating the reasoning speel from 'The Disc Doctor'.
The best record cleaning results I have had have been from using the Disc Doctor cleaning fluid. You can also use it Record Cleaning Machines. Its available in the UK (from Vivante amogst other places I think) and does not contain IPA.
The best record cleaning results I have had have been from using the Disc Doctor cleaning fluid. You can also use it Record Cleaning Machines. Its available in the UK (from Vivante amogst other places I think) and does not contain IPA.
Posted on: 10 June 2002 by Dan M
Shipping DIsc Doctor cleaners might get pricey to the UK. I use a VPI concentrate that you add to distilled water. Comes in a small (1 or 2oz) bottle. I get mine from Elusive Disc - right now they are having a special of free (domestic) shipping on accesories but "International customers receive $5.00 off the shipping method of their choice!"
-Dan
-Dan
Posted on: 10 June 2002 by pm
Off at a tangent, but has anybody got any details of an ultrasound type record cleaner?
Sketchy, maybe even plain wrong, but I believe the British Musuem uses such a machine in its sound archives.
Part of the vinyl is dipped vertically into a solution and ultrasound is transmitted into the bath. The sound literally shakes the dirt out of the grooves. The record is rotated around its axis and eventually the whole record is done without wetting the label.
Now there's a DIY project.............
Sketchy, maybe even plain wrong, but I believe the British Musuem uses such a machine in its sound archives.
Part of the vinyl is dipped vertically into a solution and ultrasound is transmitted into the bath. The sound literally shakes the dirt out of the grooves. The record is rotated around its axis and eventually the whole record is done without wetting the label.
Now there's a DIY project.............
Posted on: 10 June 2002 by Andrew L. Weekes
I've been thinking along these lines myself. It's a highly effective, gentle cleaning method, I'm just not sure of the energy levels required. I'm sure a bit of research would reveal all.
It's not too difficult to implement and I may try adding something to my disco antistat cleaner, which is pretty effective on its own.
Just need some transducers, an oscillator and bingo.
I'm a bit busy with something else though, at present, but if I ever try it, I'll let you all know.
A.
It's not too difficult to implement and I may try adding something to my disco antistat cleaner, which is pretty effective on its own.
Just need some transducers, an oscillator and bingo.
I'm a bit busy with something else though, at present, but if I ever try it, I'll let you all know.
A.
Posted on: 10 June 2002 by garyi
Andrew if it works can I have it? 
I have the cleaner.
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I have the cleaner.
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Posted on: 10 June 2002 by Andrew L. Weekes
quote:
Andrew if it works can I have it?
Do you mean the cleaning thing or the other thing?
The former may be some time, the latter is definitely not a freebie
A.
Posted on: 10 June 2002 by Rico
Isopropyl alcohol has a low-ish flashpoint, which makes it somewhat hazarous at elevated temperatures IIRC.
There was a thread recently (It may have been on the Mana forum) that suggested Printers might be a decent source of Isopropyl. YMMV.
Again, IIRC James uses a photographic processing wetting agent and fins it very effective and economical. From my distant memories of time spent in the darkroom, isn't that the stuff you add to the final rinse of yer negs such that they dry evenly following decent rinsing - and no water spots left on when dry?
Rico - SM/Mullet Audio
There was a thread recently (It may have been on the Mana forum) that suggested Printers might be a decent source of Isopropyl. YMMV.
Again, IIRC James uses a photographic processing wetting agent and fins it very effective and economical. From my distant memories of time spent in the darkroom, isn't that the stuff you add to the final rinse of yer negs such that they dry evenly following decent rinsing - and no water spots left on when dry?
Rico - SM/Mullet Audio