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The Pixies vs The White Stripes

Posted by: i am simon 2 on 30 July 2002

I was at a friends flat the other day, listening to some music, when I asked him what he thought of the White Stripes.

I have heard songs on the radio but not much else.

He said "if you think you like the Stripes, then listen to this"

He then played me some tracks from Surfarosa by the pixies.

This album from the early eighties (when I was about six) sounded more like the White stripes, than the white stripes.

I have now bought a Pixies album as I thought the original is likly to be better.

Has anyoune else noticed this stark similarity.

Simon
Posted on: 30 July 2002 by Paul Ranson
Once you've got all the Pixies albums check out Frank Black both solo and with the Catholics.

Bowie covers 'Cactus' from Surfer Rosa on his latest.

Paul
Posted on: 01 August 2002 by Former member
Imagine only discovering the pixies now!

Bliss!

Oh man you're gonna enjoy! wink
Posted on: 01 August 2002 by redeye
It'll be Dinosaur Jnr and Husker Du next...

Oh, and Pavement



happy trails
Posted on: 05 August 2002 by i am simon 2
Already enjoying pavement,

As for Dinosaur Jnr, I was under the imression that they were too underground for my conservative tastes, will give them a listen though.

Simon
Posted on: 06 August 2002 by Former member
From what I remember "Where you been ??" was a good LP. It's been a long time since I listened to it , though.

As for Husker Du - buy "Copper Blue" by Sugar to hear Bob Mould at his peak. Tunes and noise , in that order.

Paul Venables
Posted on: 06 August 2002 by David Hobbs-Mallyon
If you want tunes, go for Warehouse Songs and Stories

If you want noise, then it has to be New Day Rising

David
Posted on: 06 August 2002 by Lo Fi Si
Nahhh if you want noise, go for "Everything Falls Apart" and you must listen to "Metal Circus" if only for Diane

Simon
Posted on: 06 August 2002 by Former member
Or if you're really tired of life: "Land Speed Record"!

Thoroughly endorse the "Copper Blue" recommendation.
Posted on: 06 August 2002 by David Hobbs-Mallyon
Nick, Lo

I thought I had a high tolerence for noise, but those earlier albums are very hard on the ears from what I remember.

Never really found any of those Copper Blue or Bob Moulds albums that inspiring at the time. Maybe I should revisit.

David
Posted on: 06 August 2002 by Former member
quote:
Originally posted by David Hobbs-Mallyon:
I thought I had a high tolerence for noise, but those earlier albums are very hard on the ears from what I remember.




This from a Birtwistle fan!

quote:


Never really found any of those Copper Blue or Bob Moulds albums that inspiring at the time. Maybe I should revisit.




I would hestitate to recommend anything to a man who threw his Can albums away. wink
Posted on: 06 August 2002 by David Hobbs-Mallyon
Nick,

Whatever happened to the Birtwistle amnesty you promised? Expect some Xenakis at the next listening session.

Did the Coltrane last more than 5 mins?

David
Posted on: 07 August 2002 by Former member
Right. No more Birtwistle cracks, honest.

Played "A Love Supreme" all the way through this evening. I enjoyed it, though that was not a view shared either by my wife or the cats.

I'll certainly play it again before returning it, if that's OK. I might just be onto a breakthrough here...but it could be a while before I can face "Interstellar Space" again (no matter how briefly).

P.S. Sorry for mucking up this Pixies/White Stripes thread with this jazz stuff.
Posted on: 08 August 2002 by David Hobbs-Mallyon
OK,

To get back on track, The Pixies were a great live band in their early trips to the UK.

Both Surfer Rosa and Doolittle are good, but both are inconsistent. IMHO, they went downhill pretty fast after these two.

David
Posted on: 08 August 2002 by throbnorth
The live album that initially came with 'Death To The Pixies' is a real treat, if you can find it - one of my favourite live albums ever [and it's a very short list!]

throb
Posted on: 08 August 2002 by David Hobbs-Mallyon
throb,

I'll keep a lookout in the 2nd hand shops for that one.

A few weeks back, a friend of mine gave me a brief listen to half of the Pixies tribute album called 'Where is my Mind'. Does anyone know whether this is this any good?

David
Posted on: 08 August 2002 by David Hobbs-Mallyon
and whilst I'm also on the subject, I also used to have on tape a Neil Young tribute album (yes I threw it away), which had the Pixies on. Anyone remember what this is called. I think it also had Dinosaur Jr on.
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OK did a bit of searching online, and found it - it was called The Bridge, with the following track listing.

1. Barstool blues - Soul Asylum
2. After the goldrush - Flaming Lips
3. Cinnamon girl - Loop (1)
4. Winterlong - Pixies
5. Only love can break your heart - Psychic TV
6. Needle and the damage done - Henry Kaiser & David Lindley
7. Mr Soul - Bongwater
8. Don't let it bring you down - Victoria Williams
9. Captain Kennedy - Sudden, Nikki & French Rev.
10. Helpless - Nick Cave
11. Computer age - Sonic Youth
12. Lotta love - Dinosaur Jr.
13. Out of the blue - Ball
14. Words - Henry Kaiser

Some years since I heard it, but I thought it was a good album then.

David

[This message was edited by David Hobbs-Mallyon on THURSDAY 08 August 2002 at 11:49.]
Posted on: 08 August 2002 by Lo Fi Si
Is that the Live in Newcastle one? I picked it up a month or so ago but have not seen it mentioned in discographies so assume that it is a bootleg.

Simon
Posted on: 08 August 2002 by Former member
This dissing of The Pixies must cease! I think that Come on Pilgrim, Surfer Rosa, Doolittle, and Bossanova are great albums. Indeed Bossanova is probably my favourite! Trompe le Monde is pretty rubbish, I'll give you that.

Also if I had to buy one compilation of the Pixies, I think the BBC sessions is an excellent one, although of course the song versions are "pseudo" live ones and not the album versions.

So name me some of your favourites David so I can give you my opinion on them wink
Posted on: 08 August 2002 by David Hobbs-Mallyon
Barry,

I didn't think I was dissing them, in fact at the time they were my favourite live band, particularly around the release of Surfer Rosa. I didn't count Come on Pilgrim, as that is usually appended to Surfer Rosa. I'd find it hard to choose between Surfer Rosa or Doolittle, although I tend not to listen to either all the way through as they both have some pretty weak songs on.

Bossanova always sounded a bit soft in comparison to me, and certainly by that stage I thought they had lost their energy live.

David
Posted on: 08 August 2002 by matthewr
The live album from "Death to the Pixies" is based on a concert in Holland from 1990 just after Bossanova was released and can be highly recommended. I think on the CD release it was split into 2 parts and you can buy the live album separately without what will for most people be a redundant "Best of..." disc.

BTW The recent C4 documentary on The Pixes had some fabulous footage of their first UK conert at The Mean Fiddler. AFAICT this concert has never been released on video or CD which seems a shame.

As for rating the studio albums -- Come on Pilgrim and Surfer Rosa are all-time classics, Doolittle is an not far behind, Bossanova and Trompe le Monde are merely very good.

Matthew
Posted on: 08 August 2002 by David Hobbs-Mallyon
I suppose I should also confess now that I chucked out Bossanova a few weeks ago.

Oh dear.....
Posted on: 08 August 2002 by Former member
Throwing out Bossanova, you bold boy! wink

Mind you I never saw them play live (too young!) but I did see Frank Black recently where he also played some of the pixies track - excellent gig!

So come on then 'fess up, who are your favourites- Jethro Tull and Yes, no doubt razz
Posted on: 08 August 2002 by David Hobbs-Mallyon
Barry, I said they were my favourite live band of the time -- isn't that praise???

Generally my musical tastes have gone back about 100 years or more.

David
Posted on: 08 August 2002 by i am simon 2
This is the trck I find myself listening to the most from my best of album.

In fact it is rapidly becoming a fovorite.

I think it is from Surfarosa, is this track represenatative of that album?

I am not so keen on the rest of the best of, but I have only listened to it for a week or so.


Simon
Posted on: 08 August 2002 by David Hobbs-Mallyon
BTW Matthew, if that video ever gets released, I certainly want to see it.

David